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  • #172911
    BlueKnight
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    Has anyone had any success in getting RIFT online working in 3D?

    I got it working within the game with no glitches by copying the Gamebryo engine profile for Fallout 3. But can not get 3D support working?

    Anyone has got this working?

    #172870
    dellrifter22
    Participant

    Well shoot…

    I’ve tried searching a bit more around, looks like a few people have had similar troubles on this forum, but no solutions were posted. One even described the poor color depth issue. Search “spinning” among this forum if you haven’t already. Just maybe you could revive a thread or contact one of them to see if they ever got it working.

    If you’re not already exhausted, some additional things that may or may not be worth checking:

    – Windows 10 is up to date (and directX)
    – No active anti virus scanners. (in Windows Defender turn off real-time protectoin)
    – Nvidia drivers clean reinstall. Without Geforce Experience, or 3D vision related drivers. (I never installed it to avoid conflicts with automated game settings)
    – Opt out of SteamVR beta (not using SteamVR beta)
    – disable steam in-game overlay
    – SteamVR developer settings: Allow asynch reprojectioin and Always-on reprojection, both on.
    – Not running Oculus process if installed. (I also have a rift so I stop the OVRService when using pimax steamvr, just in case)
    – vorpX is installed to C drive. Installed with admin rights.
    – Try launching vorpX manually with and without admin rights. Try launching games with and without admin rights.
    – vorpX is in steamVR mode and hit apply for every change made in config app.
    – spinning in fullVR mode as well as cinema mode?
    – close piplay after booting steamvr. Or try launching game with both off, allowing vorpX to autostart steamVR. (this sometimes helps my Fallout4 launch issue)
    – Pimax is not connected/on during system boot/reboot, only after. (can sometimes confuse the system or device)
    – Pimax does not show in Device Manager under Display/Monitor adapters. (If shows as Rift DK2, uninstall it’s device/drivers)
    – neither CPU or GPU severely overclocked or thread locked.
    – test hdmi port with alternate device (likely not necessary since other vr apps display color correctly)

    and I’ll stop now haha. Again, these may not solve anything, just thinking out loud. Bet it’s something simple though, fingers crossed.

    #172704
    bzowk
    Participant

    Hey Guys –

    I’m a long time vorpX owner and after reading an article recently, thought I’d try it out in Fallout New Vegas. I installed version 1.4.0.52 from a standalone source (not steam) and ensured vorpX was up to date. I found out that I’d have to perform the first part of the game where you set up your character without vorpX, but that wasn’t a big deal. Once in the game (out of the Doctor’s office), I saved, closed the game, relaunched it with vorpX started, then did a DirectVR scan and it worked great – except for one thing…

    When playing Fallout NV with vorpX, I have no sound at all. When launching the game without vorpX, the sound works great – using vorpX, no go. The rift’s audio works great in other titles.

    Below is what I’ve tried to resolve the issue…
    – Alt-tabbing from Fallout NV and manually setting (Windows) audio device to Oculus Rift
    – Verifying volumes are up in Windows, Fallout NV, & by hitting menu on right Oculus controller in game
    – Verifying game produces sound when launched outside of vorpX
    – Verifying Rift audio works in other titles
    – Rebooting PC / relaunching game
    – Deselecting global vorpX option for “Use built-in audio” (and ensuring Windows audio device was set to Oculus Rift), applying, then relaunching vorpX & game
    – Setting the default audio device in vorpX Config’s Troubleshooting section to the Rift for Fallout NV then relaunching vorpX & game
    – Selecting option to run vorpX as administrator

    That’s all I could think to try so thought I’d post. Any suggestions? Thanks!

    #172522
    dokk66
    Participant

    After DirectVR scan PipBoy is very close, and upside down. https://ibb.co/ca3jZ7
    Anybody know how to fix it?
    THX

    #172326
    Ralf
    Keymaster

    Unless a recent Fallout 4 update broke something, shadows should be fine since a long time.

    Demosthenes
    Participant

    Having had the PC version of Skyrim for a few days now here are some quick thoughts on how it compares to my Vorpx experience and whether or not it’s worth buying.

    I run Skyrim VR on a Win10 1080ti pc and Vorpx Skyrim in the original 32bit version.

    Firstly, the main impression I have inside SkyrimVR is that the scale is excellent. Objects, buildings, people and landscapes all feel life-size. Distant areas feel like you can judge that distance accurately just by looking. Roomscale and positional tracking is really convincing.

    These elements of scale and tracking are by far the most positive features.
    Performance is excellent. It seems that they have optimized textures to give a smooth framerate. Unfortunately they have decided to crop objects at the extreme field of vision, which means you might notice this while turing during gameplay. I did, and it is quite distracting.

    Combat is in all honesty not good at all. The bow angle is wrong [as in PSVR] and will not feel anything like bows in VR archery games like Apex Construct. The melee weapons don’t seem to be able to block reliably, if at all. Swords and shields are not the way to play this version of Skyrim if you want to feel like you are there. Hitboxes [where you are judged to have connected with a character in combat] are unpredictable and don’t appear to move with you in roomscale. Swords go right through solid objects and stone. No hitting a dungeon wall and seeing sparks fly. This, while expected in VR, is still jarring.

    Magic feels good and this combined with archery is probably the best way to play for now.

    Even though there is a character generation screen you cannot, as I can in Vorpx, look down and see my character’s body. If your hands are empty of weapons you see your controllers. No 3rd person option, which is possible in Vorpx.

    Mods seem to work surprisingly well! Apart from ones that involve complex scripts or SKSE.

    In comparison to Vorpx:

    I have a heavily modded Skyrim build created with Mod Organizer. 254 plugins and over 400 mods. Also using enb injector for memory. Surprisingly stable with all that.

    Vorpx Skyrim looks far better with all those wonderful mods. The world is more interesting and engaging. The detail is fantastic. It is unlikely that the SkyrimVR will ever achieve that level of detail [especially with script heavy mods] that Vorpx can achieve.

    It took me a long time, first following the STEP guide, then adding many mods upon that, to get what I have now in Vorpx. I don’t relish the prospect of doing that again. Although it should take far less time knowing all I know now.

    Combat in Vorpx is far better than in SkyrimVR because things connect. Swords spark off walls, block enemy blows, scatter objects etc. I suspect it would be like playing with a playstation type controller in SkyrimVR, which is a choice in the menu. I have not tried that yet.

    Interior locations in Vorpx look far better graphically and almost indistinguisable from SkyrimVR in terms of scale.

    The only real change is outdoors, where SkyrimVR feels better because of the scale and positional tracking. If I could get positional tracking working in Vorpx without the flicker…My Vorpx Skyrim also jitters slightly outdoors, but I suspect that is the ridiculous amount of mods, textures etc.

    It’s hard for me to compare performance because my Vorpx Skyrim is so modded, and it would be unfair when SkyrimVR is quite stripped back in terms of textures. SkyrimVR also uses TAA which blurs things beyond what some people might find acceptable.

    Conclusion:

    SkyrimVR has bugs and I’m hoping it will be better with a few patches. It is expensive given it is one game that and Vorpx gives you far more value for your money with VR for many.

    If you are never going to mod SkyrimVR then buy it. If you are planning to mod, but money is a factor, wait for a couple of patches. It is already in a far better state than Fallout4 VR was. If you are deciding between Vorpx and SkyrimVR buy both!

    The odd thing is that I am now using SkyrimVR as basically a baseline template to minutely adjust the Vorpx settings to get it as close as possible.

    I would certainly not just migrate away from the modded Vorpx version, SkyrimVR is not that good. Once the magic of scale has diminished you will be hungry for something that will allow you to add world detail and new adventures. For that Vorpx is still king.

    And of course, for Vorpx there are many more games than just Skyrim :)

    haints
    Participant

    Nvidia global settings:
    anisothrope :16X
    DSR:1.7% 2% 3%
    DSR:33%
    shadercache :on
    MFAA:off
    ———————————-
    Nvidia game settings:
    FXAA:on
    antialiasing:8X
    MfAA:off
    ______________________________________
    GTAV grahics settings:
    windowed
    resolution :1920X1440, 1920X1200
    format:4:3
    FXAA:on
    MSAA:4X
    NVIDIA TXAA:on
    Vsync:off
    MSAA_off
    postprocessong:normal
    Anisotophic: 16X
    Tessalation: normal
    Thats my setting , its by far not comparable with Skyrim or fallout 4 but its the best i can get . I have some mods installed like : corona be gone, Rockstar editor effects.

    Thanks nieda! I’ll try those settings. DSR, huh. What video card do you have? I just have a GTX 970.

    nieda113
    Participant

    Nvidia global settings:
    anisothrope :16X
    DSR:1.7% 2% 3%
    DSR:33%
    shadercache :on
    MFAA:off
    ———————————-
    Nvidia game settings:
    FXAA:on
    antialiasing:8X
    MfAA:off
    ______________________________________
    GTAV grahics settings:
    windowed
    resolution :1920X1440, 1920X1200
    format:4:3
    FXAA:on
    MSAA:4X
    NVIDIA TXAA:on
    Vsync:off
    MSAA_off
    postprocessong:normal
    Anisotophic: 16X
    Tessalation: normal
    Thats my setting , its by far not comparable with Skyrim or fallout 4 but its the best i can get . I have some mods installed like : corona be gone, Rockstar editor effects.

    Fiddlestickman
    Participant

    Vorpx has been incredible, and Fallout: New Vegas is a blast. I really like using the positional DirectVR, because when I zoom in I know my gun is centered. The only problem is, I often can’t see the front sight because the back sights block my line of sight.

    Would it be possible to add a setting where one of the eyes is centered and the other is not? That way, when I zoom in, I can close one of my eyes and use the other to aim.

    Thanks for this incredible piece of software. DirectVR in particular is a dream to use.

    #171468
    passprogress
    Participant

    Thief 2014, GTA 5 and Fallout 4 wont launch.

    I7 8700K
    GTX 980 TI
    windows 10 version 1709 16299.248

    #170745

    In reply to: Technical Overview?

    Ralf
    Keymaster

    There is no need to tweak any vorpX settings for Fallout 3/NV. Please don’t use cloud profiles for games like Fallout 3/NV if you are just starting with vorpX. If a profile already exists in the local database, there usually is no need to use a cloud profile. With default settings these games have full Geometry 3D (the scene is rendered twice exactly like native VR apps) and also do not open in cinema mode. Direct VR provides a perfectly calculated field of view and perfect, low latency 1:1 head tracking without you having to adjust any settings at all in these games.

    Might make sense to do a factory reset before you proceed. You can do that in the config app (trouble shooting page). Both the vorpX ingame menu and the config app have tooltips for most settings that briefly explain what a setting does. Do not tweak too much though, it’s very easy to do more harm than good as a beginner.

    If you have trouble with vorpX attaching to games or the Direct VR scan running successfully, please check for potential injection conflicts with other programs on your PC, that is by far the most likely cause for such an issue. Typical candidates are first and foremost overzealous virus scanners, also any GPU/CPU utility, video recording/streaming software, messengers and generally everything that can display notifications in games.

    Last, but not least: if you have modded your games, please try a fresh, completely unaltered install to make sure that no mods interfere. Then add your mods back one by one. Some mods (e.g. graphics mods like ENB) have a high potential of causing conflicts with vorpX since they hook into the rendering pipeline the same way that vorpX does. Others, e.g. camera mods or memory optimizing mods, may interfere with Direct VR head tracking and/or FOV adjustment.

    #170742

    In reply to: Technical Overview?

    Wintermane
    Participant

    Ahhh baloney! It does NOT work out of the box. It’s not even VR 3D, its 2D in cinema mode! My normal FONV works fine both standalone and through ModOrganizer. I’m using 17.3.2. I’ve tried every other profile in the cloud, and those don’t work either (not that there is a lot of them). As the original poster mentioned, the profiles are all binary files, so there is no “tweaking”, you make a change in the game, save it, exit, export it. The help is practicaly non-existant as far as documentation and what each setting might possibly do. The Skyrim game works (ish… lots of black flickering), Deus Ex HR works sort of, can’t adjust the vertical centering, just the horizontal. Dishonored has an inverted picture flickering in the upper left corner of the left eye (taking up 1/4 of the viewing area). Still haven’t been able to even launch Fallout 3 GOTY! It just sits in the task manager after vorpx “attaches” itself to it. I have a HTC Vive with Fallout 4 VR, and it works fine (Alienware system 16 gigs of ram with Radeon RX 580 and latest drivers). In other words, it’s not the system, it’s the software. I expected to have to tweak some settings, but they are not even close for FONV! The DirectVR mode doesn’t work either, in fact it makes things worse (in just about every game). So far I’m not impressed in the slightest.

    #170583
    Ralf
    Keymaster

    Didn’t you ask that twice already? Can’t remember 100%, but I believe so. There is no other answer to this question than the last two times: for using the PipBoy please switch to EdgePeek mode, which is very easy to do (mouse wheel click, right thumbstick button click). The PipBoy is an extra screen in this game with a different FOV etc. There is no way for vorpX to change how the game engine handles the PipBoy display, that would require access to the game’s source code.

    The purpose of the EdgePeek function is to provide an easy way to use menus that (obviously) are not optimized for VR by the game designers since the games were made to be played on a monitor. Using menus this way is also a lot more comfortable than having a menu screen (in this case the PipBoy) glued to your face like it is without EdgePeek.

    Weapons are a somewhat related matter. They often are rendered as a separate ‘scene’ by games to look good on a monitor, which might not always be the same as looking perfectly right in VR. In the Fallout games you can adjust the weapon FOV separately in the vorpX menu to mitigate that somewhat, but that may have unwanted side effects, so it’s not really recommended.

    Tiggerdyret
    Participant

    I fixed this with a mod the last time I played, but I’m not sure it will play well with DirectVR. How are the hand models in FO3 and NV with DirectVR?

    Kiituri2017
    Participant

    Hi,

    I tried to search the forum but could not find issue for this.

    The Witcher 3 in VorpX I crash for browsing around invetory for more than 1 min. I can see from Process Lasso how Witcher3.exe starts to eat up memory while I stay in inventory (I have 32GB, it crashes around 28GB).
    – If I exit inventory. It will not crash but does not free memory, so if I stayed 30sek it resered 20GB it still keeps this and I can continue to play, if I re-enter inventory is same game instance then it starts to go up 20GB – 25GB etc and will crash. Reload game – reload save game and good to go again…

    Easy to replicate. No need to do anything it just eats memory while stayin in inventory.

    This problem does not happen if I disable VorpX and play normally. No problem here. This is clearly VorX issue.

    My VorpX is in default settings (Configure VoprX -> Full Factory Reset).

    Otherwise VorpX work perfectly with Batman, Fallout 4, Skyrim etc. No similar problems. Also other vice Witcher 3 works great, just have to avoid merchants etc.

    Sorry if this has already been posted. Please redirect me to right thread if this is the case.

    Thank you in advance for your support! And thank you for great product (VorpX)!

    Best reagrards,
    Aki

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