Camera control/method for turning 3rd person into 1st person

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  • #211241
    VRified Games
    Participant

    Hi Ralf and indeed everyone:-),

    It occured to me

    In “more 3D settings” you can adjust player height by moving the camera on the vertical axis

    In theory, would it be also possible to do the same on the horizontal axis, and even the z axis?

    This would give us even greater control and options

    Imagine, being able to offset the camera in this way

    In theory any third person title could be playable in first person vr.

    As we can already adjust HUD elements and F.O.V it’s not out of the question to produce some great results.

    In my most recent video I attempt to get a plague tale in first person with some degree of success

    However although I can match her height by adjusting the camera height…..the in game camera remains at her shoulder rather than her head.

    (Characters speaking to her are from your perspective talking to your left shoulder 😂)

    If it were possible to also adjust the camera horisontally, I could achieve a flawless first person view

    And then the idea struck….this could potentially work for any title if we can adjust the x,y and z axis of the camera

    Would this appeal to anyone else?

    Any thoughts?

    #211242
    Ralf
    Keymaster

    As you assumed no problem technically, although there are a few caveats. Most importantly, like the height and main eye options that would be limited to games with Geometry 3D. It wouldn‘t work for Z3D. Sounds still like a neat idea. As always no promises, but I might add this as expert options for the next update.

    #211245
    VRified Games
    Participant

    I will buy you chocolate if you do ;-)

    #211254
    reter
    Participant

    never thought about that, it’s awesome. I will buy you a coffee to pair with his chocolate

    #211284
    angelayla
    Participant

    I would love this posibility! I’ll buy biscuits if Ralf includes this in the next a
    update!!

    #212584
    VRified Games
    Participant

    Psst 👀 psst, hey….Ralf, buddy 👀 i still have those chocolates for ya bro
    🍬

    #212587
    Ralf
    Keymaster

    Didn’t have a chance yet to check how well this would actually work with a bunch a games, but it’s still on the list of things to try before the next update.

    #212588
    VRified Games
    Participant

    cool :-),

    #212595
    angelayla
    Participant

    Please Ralf, try to include this feature. It would be a revolution for VR. It would be amazing to play games like Tomb Raider in first person!

    #212602
    VRified Games
    Participant

    Oh man….angelyla

    ive been imagining Dead Space, the Tomb Raider Reboots, so many games

    it would be awesome :-)

    #212603
    Ralf
    Keymaster

    Most of you who know me a bit probably noticed already that contrary to how „good“ advertising works I don’t really like to promise the moon, so just to keep expectations in check a bit:

    1. This would only with with G3D profiles except for games with positional tracking via game specific DirectVR magic.
    2. When done via G3D moving the camera over larger distances causes visual glitches in games with more complex deferred renderers.
    3. May mess up mouse/gamepad rotation in some games.
    4. Head/face geometry will probably flicker in occasionally when the camera is moved inside/in front of the head.

    That said: I will definitely check whether it works well enough in a variety of games and depending on how much of an actual issue the points above turn out to be actually, decide whether it‘s worth it or not.

    #212631
    VRified Games
    Participant

    :-)

    #212748
    james002
    Participant

    Can we play third person games as first person ones through vorpx and if not then when are we going to have it???

    #212806
    VRified Games
    Participant

    Hi Ralf,

    just throwing this in here as a use case

    the first person camera was achieved through a.ini tweak

    but thiscshows how could a third person game can be in first person…achieved simply by moving the camera

    #212862
    5yn
    Participant

    For me an option like this would be cool not only for the first person method, but also for improving the game experience in general. The issue I have with multiple 3rd person games like Nioh or Dark Souls, is that the camera is often too far away from the character, which is simply less immersive for me.

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