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[museumsteve]

MrGeddings wrote:

well yeah i understand that you have a job fine. but then again thats more the reason to release the thing now as a beta. you could earn some extra money and then just take it as you go. but whatever. what gets me is just that the fact you havent bothered to commmicate and provided any blog posts or any real updates in months i mean at the very least you could post a video once in a while of your progress you know? i didnt mean to be overly rude (and for the other guy so your saying you woudnt want a person to buy your product who was rude to you. online.thats stupid money is money if you take it so personal thats your problem)

it would just be nice to hear more updates or some sort of timeline. and i just wish youd go ahead and release the beta to those who wish to be “early adopters” its like what a lot of devs are doing these days, with kickstarter and things like star citizen. i honestly think thats a much better way to do a project anyways ….expecally if you are more transparent and at least try to provide good status updates too. just leaving everyone in the dark on things just is really frustrating.

but i really think you should release the beta for those who want to pay early that will releave some pressure as you have the beta out for users and can just take more time to work at it at your own pace while earning a bit of money from it. or at least give us a reason for such a long delay when you said it would be out shortly after rifts started shipping..

but whatever. i guess it comes when it comes. didnt mean to be overly rude but its just frustrating because we are all sitting her wondering whats really going on with VorpX.

i think a few more updates or somethng would at least help.. updating your blog even just once a month would be better then nothing.

..and even when Ralf posts a reply, you spew the same old text. Can you not just leave it now?.
I can imagine Ralf bows to pressure and releases it in it’s current state and then you cant get a game working properly because people have different OS’s, GPUs, mem etc etc…you’d be here every day again moaning about when the next update is coming.
I really wish you’d think about these things a bit more rationally.

For the record, I have had a retail shop for 18 years..and money certainly isn’t money. I’d refuse to sell something to someone that had the tone you have..and I have done and will continue to do so.
Maybe you don’t read over what you write but regardless of your intention, you are simply rude.

[MrGeddings]

well yeah i understand that you have a job fine. but then again thats more the reason to release the thing now as a beta. you could earn some extra money and then just take it as you go. but whatever. what gets me is just that the fact you havent bothered to commmicate and provided any blog posts or any real updates in months i mean at the very least you could post a video once in a while of your progress you know? i didnt mean to be overly rude (and for the other guy so your saying you woudnt want a person to buy your product who was rude to you. online.thats stupid money is money if you take it so personal thats your problem)

it would just be nice to hear more updates or some sort of timeline. and i just wish youd go ahead and release the beta to those who wish to be “early adopters” its like what a lot of devs are doing these days, with kickstarter and things like star citizen. i honestly think thats a much better way to do a project anyways ….expecally if you are more transparent and at least try to provide good status updates too. just leaving everyone in the dark on things just is really frustrating.

but i really think you should release the beta for those who want to pay early that will releave some pressure as you have the beta out for users and can just take more time to work at it at your own pace while earning a bit of money from it. or at least give us a reason for such a long delay when you said it would be out shortly after rifts started shipping..

but whatever. i guess it comes when it comes. didnt mean to be overly rude but its just frustrating because we are all sitting her wondering whats really going on with VorpX.

i think a few more updates or somethng would at least help.. updating your blog even just once a month would be better then nothing.

[Glitch1336]

I’m going to toss this quote in from the FAQ:
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“When will it be available?”

“No exact date has been set yet, but a first release should be available not too long after the Rift devkit arrives. vorpX is developed with a taped together prototype, similar to the official Rift prototypes you may have seen in videos, but some things have to be adjusted for the real thing once it is available.”

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Ralph, if you even read these forums at all anymore, you still have this posted, yet we know you got your Rift kit months ago. An explanation and update is in order.

[MrGeddings]

i agree with you. I honestly think hes being a dick. I mean you dont annouce some awesome cool driver that will make a library of games work with it and then come out with some awesome cool beta previews for people and then stop updating yoru website. 3 months he hasnt updated his blog. 3 months.

i dont think its vaperware judging by the fact a beta actually is out to “the select few”

its just hes locked himself up in some dark hole and hes in his little world and it will come out when he “magically” decides it will.

all i got from him in an email near the start of the month (thanks by the way for ignoring my past two messages and only emailing me back that one time)

is that it will be out “well before” the consumer version.

whatever the hell that means.

release the damn thing already. if its in beta version thats prob good enough for us!

THIS IS FOR A DEVELOPMENT KIT IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE PERFECT RATHER THEN DOING EVERYTHING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WHY DONT YOU LET PEOPLE HELP BE PART OF THE DEVELOMMENT PROCESS BY HAVING THEM BUY THE EARLY VERSOIN AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND YOULL GET MONEY FROM IT TOO!

whatever. folks this is how NOT to do a oculus rift driver. dont annouce how awesomely kool it will be and provide nice beta previews and then just totally not give a (pardon me) fuck. about your “fan base”.

which honestly pretty much everyone who owns a Rift would be interested in this.

but whatever. im sure it will come out when he “magically” decides it is “ready”.

though i wonder what yard stick he is trying to mesure up to for it to be “ready”.

thats the problem with programs. they could be developed forever.. but theres a point you need to come to when you decide hey..it might be a great time to release it now.

whatever.

your a dick for posting all that cool info about it then not even bothering to update the site or have ANy timeframe whatsoever over it

but whatever. well at least you arnt going to half ass it like the guy who made the perception drivers so.

but theres a middle ground on one hand you dont want to make a product that only supports a few games and doesnt work the “best” but on the other hand you dont want to take FOREVER and leave people in the dark of your progress too.;

ugh.

oh well. its his loss too because hes just missing out on the money he could be making right now from it.

and thats the stupid part its a lose lose for both of us , him and us the longer he waits!

and he risks another company like tridef coming out with a better solution. they told me they have dev kits but arnt willing to annouce anything yet as im sure they are waiting to have things working well.

think about it. they already have a side by side 3d driver for games with it (that works with i think like 800 games) al they have to do is figure out how to do prewarping and head tracking and.

they could release a product (as they are a bigger company and not just one person) that could blow away Vorpx.

so yeah.

whatever.

and those beta previews were freaking MOTNHS ago. since then no one on youtube or any other site has posted anything else more about it

its like maybe he told them to stop talking about it

roadtoVR was supposed to post a update on the user interface and stuff too which they never did.

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH VORPX?

ARE YOU EVEN STILL WORKING ON IT? IS IT EVER COMING OUT? if you decided to say the hell with it , you sure as fuck better at least release the beta verions thats all im gonna say.

SOMEONE WITH THE BETA VERSION PLEASE LEAK IT ON PIRATEBAY OK? THANK YOU!

[Kris Lucky7]

These games are perfect for VR and because of the scifi I think it would be very enjoyable.

Imagine the HUD right in your face or even an Elite or Grunt

Anyways I just hope this could happen and get vorpX support I’m a huge VR fan and Halo fan and I love how vorpX can let you play almost anything!!!

[MrGeddings]

Ok seriously you are starting to tick me off sir. its insane that you are taking FOREVER to release it because apparently it has to be perfect..even though the first users for it will be with the DEVELOPMENT KIT! therefor we dont CARE if its not perfect!!!! jebus fricking christ. It just really upsets and frustrates me.. your software is badly needed because lets be honest right now that many things to try with the rift i did most of the demos and the only real game i can play on it is minecraft as i dont like the perception driver settings and half life 2 i rather play it without the hud but you gotta freaking enter two console commands everytime you load a map (and thats not easy to do with the rift).

i got my hopes up thinking oh wow at least world of warcraft is going to work with it using a mod someone did.

it doesnt..well not for me. maybe because my moniter cant run the super low resolution apparently required by the mod. corse it doesnt help that you have litterarly like 42 steps to get the damned thing working and even after all that it didnt for me….not their fault though but if they had a coder like you who could simply inject a driver instead of relying on TWO other programs .to get it to “render” right.

(again not really their fault i suppose though i strongly suggest they come up with a better solution in the future at least…)

but seriously come on release the damn thing already. we NEED it. and hey we are willing to PAY you for it.

hell. ill say it. it pisses me off!

you annouced it before the rifts started shipping you told us then “ohh oooh it will be out around when the rifts start shipping”

YEAH RIGHT!! then hyou go and post a nice little interview and have Road to VR do a nice preview of Vorpx like what 2 months ago? and since then NOTHING?

really?? i mean come on..how freaking long is it going to take you? my guess is another company like tridef or something is going to come up with a solution before your slow ass does.

the fact that you freaking dont even BOTHER now to update the blog here AT ALL in what THREE frigging months. shows you really dont give a flying fudge about the people here who want to be a part of it.

God just what we need for this …some anal developer whos locked in his room in la la land taking FOREVER to release a damn product thats right now for a DEV KIT vr headset.

GOD! it PISSES me off! how long is it going to be? another 3 months?

what really rubs my skin is the fact that you gave out (free im sure) nice little beta versions to “special people” who have had it for MONTHS now but for those who are willing to PAY YOU for the damn thing oh no screw that….no we cant get in the beta…not even if we ask. no sorry screw us huh?

whatever. you should have had a beta program like what they are doing on steam now where you pay for beta at a discount and then get the full version too

that way people who really want it wont have to wait months and months and months and months and months. and that way you could take all the time you wanted in the beta.

UGH. whatever. gotta say development for the rift has been pretty slow lately. there was a bunch of cool demos and stuffs the last few months but i dunno the last few weeks its like been silent. i guess there busy working on their projects but we NEED VORPX!

god id almost be willing to pay 100 bucks right now to get it JUST to have some more content to use with the rift!

hell thats what im doing right now with Unity. because of the lack of content.. i bought a 90 buck asset pack (was a nice one too) to have something to work with

and im kinda using it as an alternative to garrys mod because that idiot (ok he has a great mod but..still this pisses me off too) decides to say that it has -vr mode support in the beta and HE DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO TEST IT (YEAH ITS A BETA BUT STILL..AT LEAST if your going to enable a vr mode make sure it doesnt freaking crash the program every single time!)

so ive been trying to learn to import other models which ironically you most likely could get in garrys mod anyways.. so i can make my little scenes and its may cost me more as i might get some other programs to import more stuff into it.

but whatever. the rift is so awesome it just begs to have more content for it. and i dont mind paying for it if its cool.

but yeah…take all the damn sweet time you want. honestly wish someone would have uploaded a beta versoin of it on pirate bay or something so that those wanting to try it out actualy could as honestly a middle finger to you for annoucing this wonderful great awesome driver that now apparently has 80 game supported

AND TAKING FOREVER TO RELEASE IT AND RELEASING A FREE BETA TO A “SELECT” GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THEN COMPLETELY IGNORING US THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT!

sorry. people may think im being an ass for posting this.

but COME ON. maybe if enough people bitch about it you’ll finally decide “ooh gee duh maybe i should go ahead and release the beta for people who want to buy it”.

sorry this sounds negitive but apparently not like anyone ever posts that muuch here anyways considering that he has all but abandoned this blog.

RELEASE VORPX ALREADY. HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO BEG FOR YOU TO DO SO:?
ugh.

deleate this post if you want i dont care just sick of waiting.

[Susu986]

The torrent might be a little harsh, but otherwise I have to completely agree with MrGeddings. The fact that Ralf is not releasing any updates, nor there is any communication whatsoever is distasteful. Why would it be so hard to release a daily update of a few words like ‘Today is was optimizing the code for Flight Simulator X’, etc. Hell, we don’t even no if the project is still a go, or not… As someone pointed out Ralf could be even dead by now, it wouldn’t make a difference.
And even though I don’t have my Rift yet, this complete lack of communication is really pissing me off.
I also don’t see the point why VorpX is not relased yet. As we could all see, it already works with many games, and besides, no one ever heard of software update??? Vorpx will need to updated nevertheless when the consumer verison comes out, to support 6 DOF tracking. Or at least I guess so. So, if software update will be necessary than what harm would be done by releasing it now, even strictly as a work-in-progress version? Look at Arma 3! The guys released the Alpha version on Steam, and thousands of people bought it already. The game is in Beta stage now, and all Alpha users updated to Beta, as they will be updated for the final version as well, when time comes. Meanwhile they are releasing DAILY updates in a few sentences, so people now what’s going on. And yeah, they already have a ton of money from it, and the gamers are happy, despite the fact that they have paid for and using a yet unfinished product.
The situation with VorpX is really disappointing, and I don’t know if we can count on it, or it will never be developed. I don’t know, because the only thing I get is complete silence.

[MrGeddings]

Ok Im sorry a lot of us are getting pretty frustrated here. I call for a petition that you release the beta already. IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE PERFECT!

this is a DEV KIT anyways we DONT EXPECT it to be perfect, you dont need to polish it so much that it has to be a “consumer level product” looks like what you have now is still way better then the Perception drivers. it really is frustrating. you give out a few free betas to a few people but the real people who want it most who are willing to PAY to have it even in beta stage you just ignore.

and honestly its also poor that you stopped doing ANY updates whatsoever on your website it makes us feel like you really dont care about us and that your just locked in your little world and you’ll only release it when you “decide” its ready.

The Oculus Rift has VERY FEW actual games to really play on it right now..and yeah its a dev kit but a lot of us arnt game devs we are just passionate about the idea so we supported it. Having an instant selection of 80 games to work with the RIft would be a huge plus, even if it wasnt perfect.

and as i said many times at the Very LEAST could you at least update the games list with the 80 games so far you have planned to work with it?

your commication is even worse then Oculus was at times and i just dont understand why we are pretty much begging you to release it even in beta form and we are willing to PAY you to do so……why you refuse.

and at leas for Gods sake give us a release date estimate you TOLD us that it would come out shortly after rifts started shipping, its been MONTHS.. and you only had a beta preview over at ReadtoVR a mmonth ago but nothing else since.

PLEEASE RELEASE IT already!!!!!! because otherwise whenever you “decide” to come out with it my first comment would be

freaking christ its about damn time!

either that or someone who has the beta should leak it to a torrent if you ask me since this guy is not going to bother to let us have acesss to the beta even if were willing to pay for it then i dont mind paying for the full thing once you “decide” to actually come out with it.

redilicous ..and it sucks for YOU too because you are not making any money right now…if you released the beta now you could be making an actual profit from it.,

so the ONLy logical reason i can get is for you not to release it simply because you are just a super perfectionist who WILL NOT release anything uless you think its”perfect”

just great…..just who we needed to develop this thing……..release the damn thing already. this is ridiculous.

[wolf5]

The program might be usable and a few “trusted” people get to try it out.

But to give it out to the rest of the world raises an issue when money is involved.

I bet the program does not have any kind of anti-theft created yet, which means once this program gets out as it is, it will go wild. So some kind of clever way to prevent piracy of the program has to be made or bought and implemented into the software before it can be released.

my 2 cents

[Anonymous]

Valez, complaining about it is just about the only thing we can do to change Ralf’s mind about releasing it. Holding out at this point I feel is self-destructive on Ralf’s part. Timing is everything, but even Ralf should know that now is the time to cash in on the Rift. Anyone who is making money in the “Rift economy” right now will surely be making much more come consumer-time. Regardless, all we can do is keep voicing our frustration on Vorpx.com until he figures this out. Ralf, release it and get the reputation you deserve.

[MrGeddings]

I agree. But then again considering the whole customs hold up and not sure how long till i get my rift. VorpX actually might be released by the time i get mine lol. But seriously the problem is seems like the guy is a protectionist he rather not release the product even as a beta because hed be too afraid of the public saying ooh it has issues blah blah blah. When it seems to me its perfectly useable as it is right now even more so then the other drivers that alone to me seems worth it. at the very least would be nice if he at least release the names of the 80 games it now support and the fact that he rather share info on Road to VR instead of bothering to update this website at all (i mean come on if your going to have a blog of updates and then you just stop updating the blog …that really isnt very nice).

The fact that we have to go to another website to learn infomation about the drivers.

Please we are begging you and i dont understand why…release the drivers you said 3 months ago when the Rift started shipping you would release VorpX not long after the rifts started shipping and you got your kit……you got your kit near two months ago i really dont understand what the hold up is. Why not go ahead and let people pay for the beta? whats the harm in that? and it seems silly to not even do that because then at least you can start getting money in from your hard work…

“sighs”. always frustrating to wait for something like this when the person has “no idea” when it will be released. We’ll see…..

[stevetb]

MrGeddings:

I feel your pain and yes, if a Beta was offered today my money would be transferred as soon as I knew about it.

However, this is Ralf’s creation and company and he gets to call the rules on how things are played out. It may not be how you or I would do things but it is what it is and I can respect that. I think we owe it to Ralf to gripe less and encourage more.

The best we can really do now is to just use the tools that are available and wait for the day when this is finally released…….even though the wait is killing me too :)

Take care bud, I am sure a release is closer than you could imagine.

[Valez]

Ralf wrote:

@ daniel, Valez: The introduction price will be $40, as announced in an previous interview.

Even better.

@ Daniel

Please consider that of now there is only a very little base of potential customers for such a driver. If Ralf could sell his work to 100Ks of customers this would be anohter matter, but there are only 20k orders for Rifts and only arround 8k are delivered so far.
$40 for such a specialized software and such a small target audience is in fact really, really cheap.
Also I recommend you read this article:

[jwsimmons]

Your current audience is taping Hydras to their foreheads for positional tracking and spends hours tweaking ini files to get things to play even in mono mode. You don’t need much polish to impress us :)

[mm0zct]

Another developer with a Rift here waiting to take VorpX for a spin :) Mine arrived last Monday too (UK). I know you were having problems with tracking for Racing games like Dirt3, you mentioned you’ve solved them but I just though you might like to know I’ve added Oculus Tracker support to FaceTracNoIR, which can output freetrack2.0 (among other things), and talk to the TrackIR protocol in Dirt2,3 etc as well as many others. This means that even for titles that you haven’t got working head tracking, we can probably still get head tracking via this route, and this route goes through the games intended head tracking codepath, which might help deal with some rendering bugs (like head roll artifacts, which don’t happen using this).

Expect it in the next release (1.8) but contact me directly if you’d like a pre-release build to play with.