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[dimensionaldude]

I’m on the Pimax Crystal Super trying to use the Desktop Viewer / Virtual Monitor, but am having a couple problems:

-While it works, the resolution is clearly reduced. On a 4k desktop, it looks like it’s downsampled using a nearest neighbor filter down to maybe 1080 (I can see obvious aliasing on straight lines). It’s clearly displaying a poorer quality than something like SteamVR’s desktop view, I’m guessing this is some sort of bug.

-I’m on a 60Hz monitor and I can’t get Desktop Viewer to display the image at 90fps, even with vsync off in games with a high framerate. The in-game framerate will go that high, but the Desktop Viewer isn’t sampling it, it looks identical to capping it at 60 and I can tell it’s not as smooth as 90. Just to test, capping it at 30fps shows an obvious drop, so I think it’s not injecting properly.

Some things I’ve tried / noticed:

-When VorpX hooks into a game directly, it displays it at 90fps fine (same for full resolution), this is only an issue for running a game inside Desktop Viewer.

-When I try to launch Desktop Viewer through the system tray icon, nothing happens, but if I launch vorpDesktop.exe directly from the VorpX directory, then it will load.

-When trying to activate virtual monitor manually from the system tray, nothing seems to change. If it’s already running Desktop Viewer, does that mean it’s already active?

[Ralf]

“while with Vorpx it’s limited to client area”

That is to be expected and on purpose. It’s meant to keep the mouse inside the game window when run windowed. Some, especially older, games don’t handle that correctly by themselves and don’t work right without catching the mouse. I’ll put SpaceEngine on my nice-to-have official profiles list, looks interesting enough. There I would be able to override this behavior.

Can’t say anything more to your input issue before running some Windows 10 tests myself. So far no other reports like this several days after release though, which hints more towards an individial config issue than something general.

I somehow doubt logs will contain anything really useful in this case, but please create a trouble shoot data archive in the config app and send it to support at vorpx com. With some luck I can spot something.

[Ralf]

Interesting, never heard of that. vorpX does use GetAsyncKeyState(), but not in the hooked game. It updates the keyboard state in the vorpControl app and then relays that to the game via interprocess communication. It does hook the function though inside the game for various reasons. I’ll check TR3 in Windows 10. If I find something unusual, I’ll let you know.

BTW: vorpX quite heavily relies on interprocess communication like the one described above between all its parts, which makes mixing components from different versions dangerous and likely to cause havoc. Don’t do that.

Just in case you may also try a uninstall/reboot/reinstall like I suggested to Dellrifter above. Just to be 100% sure everything is really at 25.1.1.

[Nisch]

I just wanted to chime in that I’m also having issues with this driver and my 5090. It only happens in some games. For me it is with Farming Simulator 22 and 25. One of the issues is that the problem is intermittent. One thing I noticed is that when you change the tracking to “Safe” inside the game, it always replicates the issue, otherwise it’s intermittent for me. Sometimes the game is black, otherwise, it starts to flicker with no movement or action in the headset while the tracking in game often continues to work. Rolling back to 577.0 to see if that helps.

[abeardedpirate]

Have a PSVR 2. Installed the free mod to see what this is about.
In settings selected SteamVR since PSVR is using SteamVR app.
Launch game. SteamVR never brings up the game. Can see game if going to desktop mode or theater mode.
While game is open no inputs work. No keyboard inputs, no gamepad inputs, no inputs from my PSVR2 controllers.

I have uninstalled the mod, the game, fresh reboot, installed the game, rebooted, installed the free mod, fresh rebooted again and everything in between. The game will never register inputs. My keyboard does work as I can press Windows Key and get the start menu up to do other things. I can also hit the PS home key to bring up steam interface so I know my buttons work but they are not registering with Cyberpunk itself.

I uninstalled the mod and selected default on every setting inside of cyberpunk 2077 before rebooting and reinstalling the mod just to make sure everything is good. Since there is 0 interface with the free mod the only way I can get the VR selector up (Steam / Meta / Other) is to just reinstall the mod again.

I’ve launched Cyberpunk 2077 letting it open Steam VR and I’ve launched Steam VR and then opened Cyberpunk with no luck.

I went on Steam settings and have enabled steam input override for Cyberpunk 2077. I’ve tried it disabled and enabled same issue both ways.

I’m on an i9900k with a 2080ti with the PSVR2 plugged directly into my 2080ti. I haven’t had issues with other actual VR games/programs but I can’t make this work. Nothing seems to do anything. Delete / left button + right button / and L3 or w/e gamepad is nothing brings up any settings like the mod installer says it does.

Any help would be appreciated cause I feel like I’ve exhausted all the troubleshooting steps I’ve seen on this forum at this point.

[Cless_Aurion]

Thanks again for your time replying. I really appreciate you taking this issue seriously.

Simply sending the res to the headset that you dial in in SteamVR no matter what the actual game res is doesn’t make sense.

Yes, I know. I’m just saying it so I could try and force the resolution manually, instead of having an arbitrarily “double the vertical resolution” setting.
I do that with BigsScreen for example. Even when watching a 1080p movie, or playing some old flat game, I will run native resolution (5500p), even if it is to get the dark environment or the screen borders to have 0 aliasing.

Like said above, you have to look elsewhere to pinpoint your issue. There is no such thing as a “2160p wall” in vorpX.

I am aware, that is the tragic part. Unless its something driver or hardware/HMD specific, I can’t pinpoint anywhere else since there are 0 issues elsewhere, its only VorpX failing me (which to be honest, its the magic software that made me go and spend $2k on a new HMD at all) :S
If I had another high resolution HMD over 3000p around, I would test it there, but I only have my VP1 that is 1600p, which won’t do.

The issues other people with higher than 3000×3000 per eye HMDs (mostly Pimax users) seem to match closely my experience as well, so I suspect everyone with high resolution HMDs has this issue. As more and more high resolution HMDs come in, this issue seems like it will become more and more prevalent.

A game rendered at 1080p doesn’t look better just because you copy it to a 5500p texture before sending it to the headset obviously.

We agree in that of course. As long as the image is wrapped around your head or, the resolution of your HMD has a higher PPD than the screen in front you with the game, it should make barely any difference.

The problem here is… we are DEFINITELY copying a 4860p game image into a 3000p texture before sending it to the headset.
Not only that, but because I am watching that using the floating VorpX display, now we are rendering what is visible in my FOV of a downscaled 4860p game image at 3000p.
So, we are squishing that 4860p image into around 2000p in front of my eyes. That’s why aliasing is so aggravating.

That is also why when I lean in, I can see way more detail that I couldn’t see before
Also, just in case, yes VRAM bumps up as it should as I scale up resolution over 2160p (in fact, BG3 at 4860p is almost maxing out my 24GB of VRAM, which is about double what it consumes at 2160p).

Your “2160p wall” sounds suspiciously as if the game actually runs at your monitor’s res although you think it doesn’t.

Indeed, I thought that too, and it might be the root cause of this issue. If I had a lower(or higher) resolution monitor I would try that theory by plugging only that other monitor in, but I sadly can’t.

The best way I could control for that on the tests I already did was:
1. Start VorpX (virtual display gets enabled)
2. Set Virtual display resolution to 4860p.
3. Start SteamVR and disconnect all my 2160p displays so only VorpX’s Virtual display is enabled.
4. Start the game making sure that the only display windows (and the game) detects is VorpX’s 4860p monitor.
5. Change the resolution of the game to 4860p and restart (or make sure the resolution is already at 4860p or any other higher number than 2160p).

To deal with such potential issues, either run games windowed or (assuming you already have set up a high enough custom resolution), try setting your desktop res to it before launching the game.

I already did that, of course. In fact, all the tests I ran I did try in windowed mode first. Then after it didn’t work, I started to experiment and tried fullscreen and borderless modes without any success (which kind of makes sense).

If a game actually runs at 5500p, vorpX creates a 5500p headset render target. You wouldn’t even be able to let it create something smaller than that even if you wanted when the image vorpX receives is actally a 5500p image.

I’m 100% sure that is not happening in my computer though. The games and the image VorpX is receiving, are higher than 3000p. This is the core of the issue, which you in your own tests proved that VorpX IS able to pull off (that’s why I said it infuriated me!). Because again, the game window inside VorpX HAS 4860p of detail in it.
-VRAM reading matches 4860p
-Performance matches 4860p
-Visually checking the image by leaning in confirms its 4860p.
And yet… the actual HMD is only rendering at that fixed maxed 2781×3072 resolution, so its absolutely ignoring that headset render target if its being sent. :S

Maybe this is a Virtual Display/Windows issue?
I’m going to try to create a virtual display through other means, and use that instead of the VorpX one, I’ll report back once I do so, but I don’t have much faith in it either.

In any case, I’m almost convinced that if we don’t solve this here… as the next wave of HMDs come in and we start getting over 3000p resolution, people will start complaining, since right now its only affecting high tier HMDs.

[GennadijK]

Hello.
Yesterday I tried VorpX in conjunction with Virtual Desctop, I used Quest 3 . I would like to know if enable virtual monitor doesn’t work in this case, right? And one more question, the game is Inside, it turned out to be picked up only by installing the hook helper and manually selecting the Api Dx9/10/11 in the VorpX environment, just like in Reshade.
By the way, does VorpX work with reshade?
And can you tell me how to understand that the profile for the game is loaded?
And is it possible to increase the desktop resolution in VorpX only through the Dsr degree?

[ClownRazer]

Actually got Deliver at All costs working almost perfectly with the Firewatch profile (another unity game — Inside almost worked but the convergence/focus was off)

Geometry mode does make a lot of the text/textures in game overlap oddly and either be fuzzy or a bit broken, but with some strength tweaks it is playable. Let me know if anyone finds a better one.

[Boblekobold]

I never tried this game, but from what I can see in the VorpX Config app, there is an official profile.

You can know if you hooked in the starting room and/or by checking if you have 3D in “3D reconstruction” inside the ingame menu (Geometry is the best type of 3D, or Z-normal / Z-adaptive).

Concerning zoom, you can of course unzoom like in this video at 7m15s :

(I’m not recommanding to use the same settings as him appart from that, in particular concerning aspect ratio…)

But your problem probably isn’t because of zoom only. It’s because you need to raise the FOV (usually 112 horizontally, or 84 vertically).

I suppose you can adjust the FOV this way :
https://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/ug6wu/how_to_adjust_your_fov_aka_how_to_cure_arma2/

If this game has DirectVR, you can just use it like in this video at 4m44s :

It will configure most things for you.

Don’t forget to use the virtual monitor (launch VorpX Desktop Viewer with VorpX V24, then your game). It will allow you to use any resolution you want (usually a 4:3 one like 3840×2880).

You should also increase image quality with the options in the second page of the ingame menu : ClarityFX, Sharpness, Texture Enhancement, etc.
Lower gamma in VorpX if needed but not too much in the game.

Concerning headtracking, you can change headtracking speed (and you can enable/disable it). It should work when you have the Full VR display mode selected. You can also use it in Immersive Screen.

Use edgepeek shortcut during cutscenes/menu.

[CrackerBrand00]

Hi. A couple of years ago I was playing the game INSIDE and it had full 3d support. I tried just now and it’s flat. I don’t know if a newer version broke compatibility, or if I need to do something different as before i was a reverb g2, and now a PiMax Crystal Light.
Any tips would be appreciated

[Boblekobold]

virtuayay wrote:

tldr; thank you vorpx
there is nothing in the standalone stores or freeware VR injectors for recent engines that’s 1/1000th as good as playing 1990s-2010s games on vorpx.
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Of course there are a lot of old games with no equals.

Some of them are surprisingly suited for VR.

I would add even recent games are a lot better with VorpX : more immersive, a lot more beautiful in my opinion and objectively a lot more detailed. You can see every details miles around, and with the right graphic card & VR headset, it’s never pixelated.

Metro Exodus Standard edition and Avatar Frontier Of Pandora are absolutely stunning on Reverb G2, you can just stop playing to enjoy the view, it’s like going to an amusement park or to travel, except you are at home).

From my experience (other people on forums have confirmed), recent VR injectors aren’t able to provide the same image quality. It’s especially true if you have a displayport VR headset (no compression), like a Reverb G2 (good image quality but very optimized).

Besides, VorpX handles every important graphics options (raytracing, etc.). You don’t have raytracing in UE4 games with UEVR so most beautiful games are impacted.

There are a lot of recent games I wouldn’t have played at all without VorpX, but they were so beautiful and impressive in VR that it was awesome.

Most beautiful VR games are VorpX converted games.

Some old games are very impressive too, and benefits a lot from VR. They can be so much more beautiful you barrely recognize them (like if it was a remake) and they can be more impressive than most recent flat games would be on a monitor (and more beautiful than most VR exclusive games).

Anyway, there are a lot of games you can’t find in VR (immersive sims, good RPG, the most advanced action games, and even management games, etc.)

VorpX also offers a lot of amazing universes you would never “visit” in VR if you wouldn’t have it.

It allow us to rediscover or discover our favorite games, and to truely choose our VR games.

We can play almost any game in VR (even if it’s not always perfect VR).

VorpX is quite reliable in my opinion, because even if there are better profiles than others, it’s always better than a monitor on my G2, especially with FPS/TPS.

virtuayay wrote:

having a pcvr HMD without vorpx is like buying a console or gaming PC and never playing anything except free to play games.

That’s what I feel too. Of course it depends on what you expect from VR games. Some people really wants motion aiming/handling, which aren’t always available, but I think most people who never tried VR aren’t so interrested in this kind of things. It would be great, but most of the time, I prefer playing with my keyboard&mouse (more shortcuts, around 36 directly available with the 11 on the G502 mouse), and so I have to play seated. Anyway, a lot of people can’t or don’t want to play standing all the time.

VorpX is really great if you like conventional gameplay and want to see your games from the inside, or even simply with a better display.

It also have a few other uses than gaming with Desktop Viewer, so it’s a useful tool.

It’s by far currently the best way to convert games for me most of the time, especially AAA games, which are very demanding, benefits from image quality (and animation quality) and usually have compatible profiles.

But it depends on people expecations. There is usually no motion aiming. You can’t always have G3D (but when you can it’s not alternate G3D most of the time, and 3D is really great, with perfectly placed camera and no clipping). VorpX’s Z3D can be really good in modern games by the way, and I prefer a good Z3D over a bad G3D. When a profile doesn’t allow to resize HUD it can sometimes be harder to see (most of the time it’s not really a major problem, because I like immersion and difficulty, and I can still see it with edgepeek or immersive screen, but it’s something that could motivate some people to use other solutions).

VorpX is really better if you own a good PCVR headset. It doesn’t have to be expansive, on the contrary, but it’s better if it has no compression (look for displayport). Most people have a Quest 3, so they have to deal with compression, and they tend to prefer 3D over image quality, because they don’t really know what a good image quality is.

You also must be realistic : VorpX is better optimized than other solutions I tried but you need a good enough graphic card (desktop version if possible) to play the game you want to try. So if you have an old graphic card like GTX1080, you’ll have to play less demanding games, but there is still hundred of great choices (most of my best VR experiences are old games like every original Bioshock).
With an RTX4090, you can max out almost any game (raytracing without DLSS and very high resolution), and other injectors don’t allow that.

It’s not always the best for every VR enthousiast (even if I think it’s an essential tool for most VR user), but I think most of the flat gamers would love it if they would have a light and comfortable enough displayport VR headset, and could not go back.

I even think it could convince people who doesn’t usually play to play games because I didn’t really enjoyed video games anymore before VorpX and I would probably don’t play the same games without VorpX.

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Forgive my english, I’m not a native english speaker.
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So thank you VorpX too.

[Detective_Yoshi]

Hi! Im trying to improve the in Cyberpunk experience and already broke the mod two times. When in Z normal 3D, the grapics around the edges have a gelatin wobble like effect. Its a lot noticiable inside the car windows, fences but the worst is when reading wobble text.
I tried messing with dlss settings, graphics settings and Vorpx settings. IF I put VR strength to 0 (it was at 2 by default), the gelatin stops, but I think thats its like playing with Vorpx no 3D mode. Im playing on a rtx 4050 with Nice Vorpx settings and dlss was in automatic, everything else is in low or médium, so I dont have a lot of gpu power to work on and G3D is to demanding, but maybe there is something that may help. Thanks for any sugestion.

[Boblekobold]

Standard Edition is offered when you buy Enhanced Edition on Steam, but you have to download/install it separately, as if it was another game. I don’t think you can properly transfer savegames (or not completely, and not inside levels), but I think they are identical.
Both have all DLC and new game+ options.
The differences are in lighting, colors, blur effect (and some rare models/textures).

[HalloMolli]

Hmm, the “Mad Max – G3D (Rift) [dellrifter22]” profile doesn’t work for me, as vorpx will not hook whatsover. The Red Dead Redemption one hooks but causes a crash as soon as it loads into the game. However, from what I’ve seen inside my headset (as the game freezes before it crashes) the 3D effect with Z3D was VERY insignificant at best, so not worth the loss of performance and comfort (Q2 + 3rd party strap is not really comfy).

I hope there will be an official (and working) profile soon for this game.

[dellrifter22]

Just a guess, but maybe the Virtual Monitor is misbehaving with PSVR2? When VM is in use it can turn off your monitor display.

You could try disabling Virtual Monitor in the vorpX config app, or right click on the vorpX icon in system tray – if you can see your desktop inside your headset.

Maybe your headset is rebooting itself whenever you exit an app, and it is engaging the Virtual Monitor automatically. There are a few settings for automatic/manual activation in the vorpX config app.