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Hi,
I recently bought oculus rift and I am very happy with immersion it provides.
Unfortunatley you can not play many real games with it and I thought that it is time to check some old must play games. Then I heard about this program. After reading many posts I have just one question because there are many opinions for and against (and its look like those against are from people that can not set up games properly, correct me if I am wrong). Does direct vr games stated in last patch,, Fallout 4, Skyrim, Half-Life 2, Left 4 Dead 2, Portal 2, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Black Mesa Source” looks like a native vr games like for example assetto corsa or Elite? Or the view is closer to zbuffer method which someone said is similar to 3d tv view?
I don’t mind spending some time on configurations and things like changing to 2d view to check map etc.In reply to: So I am still on the fence about Vorpx
The 3D effect in Witcher 3 isn’t as pronounced as in native since it is applied after rendering the game. In contrast to that Life is Strange has full Geometry 3D, which works like native apps by rendering the scene twice.
You can play both games with the default settings, but if you want to make them more immersive, you will need to adjust settings. The one-click games that require no configuration for a fully immersive experience are the ones listed above with the new Direct VR feature: Fallout 4, Skyrim, Skyrim Special Edition, Half-Life 2, Left 4 Dead 2, Portal 2, Borderlands 2, Bishock (original), Bioshock 2 (original), Bioshock Infinite, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Black Mesa Source.
In reply to: So I am still on the fence about Vorpx
vorpX does a lot more. I.e. providing Stereo 3D and head tracking. In case of Witcher 3 it’s a 3D effect that is applied after rendering the game, so it’s not as pronounced as the 3D effect in native apps. Life is Strange has full Geometry 3D, which means the scene is rendered twice like in native apps. You can also move the “screen” very close to you, so that it fully fills the view to enhance immersion.
You can have fun with with these two games and vorpX, but you should be aware that they don’t belong to the games where vorpX really shines.
The best games for vorpX, especially in regard to easy configuration, are the ones with the new Direct VR feature, currently that includes: Fallout 4, Skyrim, Skyrim Special Edition, Half-Life 2, Left 4 Dead 2, Portal 2, Borderlands 2, Bishock (original), Bioshock 2 (original), Bioshock Infinite, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Black Mesa Source.
Thank you for your Reply again, Ralf, that’s very useful Information. Unfortunately the only games I find somewhat appealing are Skyrim and Fallout 4. But Fallout 4 will get a native VR-Support anyways (soon) and from what I’ve heard you have to reduce the graphical ‘fidelity’ to a medium Setting in Skyrim for it to become playable via vorpx in VR. And I can only Play the game with a ton of mods loaded so I am afraid it won’t be a pleasent experience playing it in VR (–> due to low fps), I guess.
Allow me two last questions:
1) What’s the difference between the 3D effect in Witcher 3 compared to a, say, native 3D effect. Yes, I get it, it’s not as significant as you’d expect but is it still, well, enjoyable enough to settle down with the low Resolution of the game (I know, it’s a very subjective question…)?
2) I suppose that I will have to work myself through the Settings of vorpx to make Witcher 3 work in VR, yes? So am I right in assuming that it won’t be something like: Load vorpx –> ‘bind’ it with witcher 3 –> push ‘Play in VR’-button in vorpx –> enjoy Witcher 3 in VR?
(note: I read some of your patch notes from the newest update of vorpx and the easy functionality you’ve just untroduced does not apply to Witcher, correct?)
In reply to: So I am still on the fence about Vorpx
vorpX does a lot more. E.g. providing Stereo 3D and head tracking. In case of Witcher 3 it’s a 3D effect that is applied after rendering the game, so it’s not as pronounced as the 3D effect in native apps. Life is Strange has full Geometry 3D, which means the scene is rendered twice like in native apps. You can also move the “screen” very close to you, so that it fully fills the view to enhance immersion or turn off the cinema mode altogether.
You can have a lot of fun with with these two games and vorpX, but you should be aware that they don’t belong to the games where vorpX really shines. The best games for vorpX, especially in regard to easy configuration, are the ones with the new Direct VR feature, currently that includes: Fallout 4, Skyrim, Skyrim Special Edition, Half-Life 2, Left 4 Dead 2, Portal 2, Borderlands 2, Bishock (original), Bioshock 2 (original), Bioshock Infinite, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Black Mesa Source.
In reply to: HTC Vive: How do I setup Black Mesa properly?
Hi Ralf,
I discovered a way to get black mesa to run on my vive (maybe genero and the others who posted that bms wouldn’t work on their vives could try it too). If I set device selection in vorpx to Generic VR headset (extended mode), then I disable direct mode in steamvr … it works!
However unfortunately head tracking does not work. But other than that it is 3d and not in desktop viewer and works well.
Does the fact that it runs when not in direct mode help narrow down the issue to perhaps allow you to fix it so that head tracking can be used? I am a little afraid that valve will take away ability to run non-direct mode someday. I know you say bms.exe works for you on vive but there are multiple other posts littered through time on here of people having issues with it so there may be a larger issue.
In reply to: HTC Vive: How do I setup Black Mesa properly?
No mail between 1.1 and 3.1 regarding Black Mesa. The only mail re the game I see at all in the last two months is the one from genero two hours ago, sorry.Scratch that. Found your message. Your log looks similar, the game quits without any visible error pretty much at the same point, but without anything else showing in the log afterwards. Not of much help either unfortunately.In reply to: HTC Vive: How do I setup Black Mesa properly?
Hi Ralf,
My Black Mesa (commercial) on vive does not hook either. The game just crashes before you can even tell it tried to run. L4D2 works in vorpx. And if I close out of vorpx, bms.exe runs fine on my monitor. I tried redownloading black mesa and updating my video card drivers (I had the older driver at time I sent troubleshooting info). Maybe my cause is similar to genero’s?
I sent you the troubleshooting data on Jan 2nd (from gmail) but I haven’t heard anything back yet. Maybe it went into your spam folder? I have also tried 7.1.2 now that it has been released but it does the same thing.
In reply to: HTC Vive: How do I setup Black Mesa properly?
There isn’t really anything you should have to do besides launching vorpX and then Black Mesa. It should be easier than ever now since field of view adjustment and head tracking can be handled by Direct VR at the touch of a button.
I am aware that this doesn’t help you, but since I just checked the game a week ago to make the Direct VR profile, I’m very sure that it works here, so I’m a bit out of ideas in regard to your Black Mesa issue.
All I can offer you at this time is looking into your vorpX logfile. Can’t promise anything, but maybe it contains something useful. You can create an archive with the logfile and other data in the config app (trouble shoot page). Please send it to support |at| vorpx com.
In reply to: HTC Vive: How do I setup Black Mesa properly?
Thanks for taking your time in responding, I am using the commercial release of Black Mesa. I bought it after seeing a Oculus user playing it in VR on youtube. I have a HTC vive and the latest release 17.1.2 of Vorpx. There is really no good tutorial out there though that introduces you and makes you familiarised with the program. This is something that comes with the ones responsible of releasing this program. I am a fish in new water and wish there was some better clearer advice out there.
Just to clear some things out I have recently formatted my pc and still dont have any sucess.
I’m looking at the local profiles tab and I find the HL2/portal/black mesa profile.
I hit apply and go to steam and launch the game and no game launches. I tired launching the game as administrator but launches with default native settings and doesn’t show up in my vive.Are you using a vive and what steps do you take to make the game launch? Thanks :)
In reply to: Positional tracking via Direct VR?
The DirectVR page in the menu is only shown if a game actually supports DirectVR.
Currently this true for these games: Fallout 4, Skyrim, Skyrim Special Edition, Half-Life 2, Left 4 Dead 2, Portal 2, Borderlands 2, Bishock (original), Bioshock 2 (original), Bioshock Infinite, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Black Mesa Source.
In reply to: HTC Vive: How do I setup Black Mesa properly?
It should just work normally, re-checked a minute ago with the latest release version of vorpX to be sure not to say anything wrong.
Just a guess, but if you are using the free Black Mesa that was once available on Steam, please update to the commercial one that is now available. The free one used to work, but that may have changed since it was last checked a long time ago.
Also make sure to use the latest vorpX version 17.1.0 that was released earlier today.
Apart from that your issue sounds a lot like an injection conflict with some other program on your PC. Unfortunately that’s not always obvious, more programs than one would think hook into games like vorpX and can cause such an issue.
Typical candidates are: virus scanners, any sort of CPU/GPU utilities, game video recording/streaming software, chat programs and generally everything that can show notifictations in games.
Best way to trouble shoot this is to disable/uninstall every program running in the background that would not be there after a fresh, Microsoft only Windows install.
If you can’t solve the issue this way, please try to start a few games, then create a trouble shoot data archive in the vorpX config app and send this archive to support |at| vorpx com. I will then check whether I can find something that you may have overlooked.
BTW: You don’t have to apply default profiles. If vorpX comes with a profile for a game, that profile is already active. You only need to use the profile section in the config app if you want to import/export profiles and settings.
Hi! confused Swede here, really new to all the VR stuff, got mine just 4 days ago.
I am trying to get black mesa running in VR on my computer but it simply wont work, i am not getting any errors. You know how on steam when you hit play and your profile picture lights up green as if the game is preparing to launch, well it does but 2-3 seconds later it goes blue again as if the game failed to launch up properly. I tried setting the game to run as administrator but then I didn’t get any “VR” functions just the normal game.
Sucks that every single game I have tried with the vive has been lackluster/not working. Really considering getting my money back at this point.
In reply to: Vorpx and it´s reputation around internet
Some of what you write is true, most of it is pure nonsense. Just play at another resolution if the suggested standard res is too low for you. Or maybe you played everything in cinema mode or whatever you mean by lacking screen distortion.
I’m using VorpX since DK2 days and to date my best VR experiences still are VorpX games. Skyrim, Fallout 4, Portal 2, Half Life (Black Mesa), just to name a few, are a lot more immersive experiences than 95% of the stuff on Oculus Home. Once there are more real games for VR that will obviously change, but it will be quite a while until then.
I played Black Mesa with VorpX a long time ago when it was a free mod, but the version that is sold on Steam now just won’t hook for me. This was one of my favorite VorpX experiences with the DK2, I would love to get this working again.
In reply to: Black Mesa doesn't work