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[agamer]

Trying to get two steam games that are on the supported list to work and they are failing to start. I have both vive and oculus rift cv1 head sets to test with and both give the similar results. The games in question start ok without vorpx running. Read through the troubleshooting options in vorpx and the post on the forums, disabling antivirus, aero and other windows services, no other overlay apps running, no steam overlay, tried changing many settings in game outside of vorpx to see if that helps, swapping out of cinema mode and cycling between the 3d modes – geometry/z/z adapt doesn’t help. Recently upgrade from a GTX780 to 1080 but same results on both video cards.

Risen – this starts ok in cinema mode but shows all black screen. Never renders game. Switching out of cinema mode and cycling between the 3d modes – geometry/z/z adapt doesn’t help, display stays black.

Dark Messiah of Might & Magic – this crashes to desktop on start consistently after showing the main game menu scene with the character rendered, seems to want to work but then just crashes.

System info:
Windows 7
ASUS nVidia GTX1080 Founders Edition
Intel i5 2500k
24GB RAM
Windows defender / Microsoft security essentials

Games that I have tested to work for me currently:
Fallout4
Skyrim
Oblivion
Dirt 3
Torchlight 2
Bastion

[Fredthehound]

Hi Ralf,

This was on a modded install. It’s fine on a monitor/no memory cap issues, but the stereo rendering seems to take a lot more memory than I thought it was.

On a separate note, I found out why Fallout 4 started crashing. The Nvidia cards seem to randomly have issues with the game recognizing the card/driver. This has been reported going back to the 700 series.

I tried all the suggestions/fixes but whatever combo of driver/F4 updates happened, I can no longer select the 5/4 or 4/3 resolutions. Even manually inputting the resolution isn’t enough.

None of the other games do this for me. Just Fallout 4.

[Fredthehound]

You sure you arent Yoda? Because you just got me to lift the proverbial X wing out of the swamp…or at least the wool from my eyes ;)

With the multicore/affinity thing unfortunately ruled out, I dove back into the numbers and thanks to finally getting Skyrim Performance monitor working CORRECTLY with VorpX and showing me good data, I made one hell of an interesting discovery.

In the picture linked below…
http://s931.photobucket.com/user/NormLenhart/media/Ram%20limit.jpg.html
…the framerates arent registering but this run was in the upper teens to lower 20s in Skyrim in Markarth. That is with EVERYTHING turned up full. Maximum possible load with the intent of making the system work as hard as possible. The 4790K @ 4.7 Ghz is the red line in the lower chart. CPU bind is not the problem. The Titan is the black line that never hits 60% usage. Clearly it isn’t the problem.

But look at the green line on top. Thats Bill gates freaking 4 gig DX9 cap in windows 10 ruining the party. ENBoost is reserving the other 500ish meg thats not being shown. It’s a memory problem. Memory appears to be the only thing stopping VorpX/Geometry from running this config far above 45FPS and likely well above 90.

All the dips are when looking at high detail areas. Things that I had believed to be a draw call problem. But look at the CPU. It’s not remotely stressed.

When I looked at this before, it was with the really big texture packs installed and hit that cap, which I expected with the Antialiasing/weather/lighting mods. But my current load is on stock size textures. When I switch back to monitor, Skyrim is barely over 2 gig of memory use. Between the ram requirements of Skyrim and VorpX though, it’s hitting Billy’s asinine limit.

So it looks like from what I can tell, Geometry mode/draw calls arent the main issue. An 8Ghz CPU and 4 titans would be meaningless. It’s purely a memory wall.

Skyrim Remastered cannot get here fast enough. Well, if nothing else, this has been a learning experience for me.

I’m redownloading Fallout 4 now for a stock reinstall. Since it seems there’s nothing more I can do for Skyrim till the remaster releases, I might as well start digging into Fallout to see what I’ll be in for when it releases.

[Fredthehound]

Hi Ralf,

Got a tech question. I’m planning for an upgrade to either X99 or Z170/Kaby Lake and 3-4000MHz ram, from my Z87/4790K@4.7/2400MHz ram system. I have been reading about core assignment and affinities lately and I am wondering about getting a 6 or 8 core and assigning VorpX to 2/4 cores of it’s own and Skyrim/Fallout/whatever to the other 2/4.

Is VorpX more CPU or GPU heavy? Since I’m topped out with a TitanXP without going the SLI route, and with Skyrim Remastered releasing next month, I’m looking where to go next for better performance out of VorpX/VR. So it’s either another TitanXP or more than 4 cores and overclocking.

Help me Obi-Wan! You’re my only hope! ;

[TenaciousJ]

These aren’t all FPS games, but are excellent picks:

The Vanishing of Ethan Carter is AWESOME in VR if you’re into mystery adventures
Elite Dangerous if you like space exploration games
The Elder Scrolls Series – primarily Skyrim.
Fallout 4
The Batman Arkham Series
Metro 2033
Call of Duty Black Ops 1-3, Battlefield 3-4 and even Hardline, Any Splinter Cell or Crysis game
Alien Isolation
Quake I-III
Half Life 2
Portal
The Witcher 1 and 2 if you like extended campaign games that will suck all your time, not sure if Witcher III is manageable at acceptable graphics levels
Bioshock: Infinite
Borderlands
GTA IV and V
and to tickle your fear of heights check out Mirror’s Edge

Essentially if your computer can run it, and it’s built on a major game engine like Unreal, Unity, and quite a few others – it’ll play in VorpX. The less popular it is the more tweaking you’ll have to do though because it won’t have been done already by someone else. Once you get used to the Vorpx in game menu you’ll be able to get games to run. Whether you get a true stereoscopic experience depends on how the game was coded though.

I’m sure that’s clear as mud now.. lol. But hopefully there are a couple of games on there you can check out that are well established as compatible.

VorpX Supported Games

[Ralf]

Probably something different then. The driver issue applied to almost every game, not just Fallout 4 and was Vive exclusive, Rift always worked. Usually games crashed after a short time in the game (<1 minute).

Just did a little test run with the latest FO4 (~10 minutes running across the map, GTX1080, Vive), but nothing to report except being killed by one of those giant mosquitos, which really look disgusting up close…

So maybe it’s indeed something Titan exclusive. If it only happens in FO4, something game config related seems more likely to me though. The usual drill for any Bethesda game would be to first and foremost get rid of any mods for testing, especially those using a script extender or (ENB) graphics enhancements.

[Fredthehound]

Hi all,

Anyone else having trouble since the last update? Fallout 4 now crashes whenever I try loading it. I’ve been screwing with Skyrim for the last week or so and when I got back to playing F4 the other day it just refused to cooperate. I dumped my prefs/config files and re did them/redid the VorpX config so they are fresh just in case. No luck. Advice/help appreciated.

Edit to clarify: It runs fine on a monitor, it’s just crashing with VorpX.

[Fredthehound]

Are you launching through Steam? I’m launching via SKSE forskyrim and F4se foe Fallout 4 straight from desktop. Maybe Steam’s launcher and VorpX arent on speaking terms?

Hey Ralf? Any idea there?

[maximus2k16]

I managed to finally get Vorpx working with ReShade. I tested it with Fallout 4, but in Geometry mode whilst having ReShade injected the right eye goes black, this could look incredible with ReShade, but another bump in the road, any idea why it would make the right eye view go blank?

Regards

[gorflick]

I tried Skyrim and now Fallout new vegas, both give me 30 fps, used the optimizations like setting and saved them, like z-normal instead geometry, crystal image to low, 800×600, low graphic quality, with 30 fps is unplayable i played skyrim for 5 min and i had nausea for some hours

I have a 6600k oc to 4.4k cause i tried to oc to see if that solved the problem, and a sapphire r9 390 nitro with latest drivers

Also the player with vlc doesnt work for 3d movies, just shows a guy sit down and the movie is totally wrong displayed.

So far vorpx has no use at all, sent an email to creator but no response

And i expected to play games not sit down but with controllers, it just is told when you use it not in webpage

If creator read this : i am really dissapointed with this product and i want a refund or solution for at lest the problems with game so that they are playable with normal fps

[Fredthehound]

Part 5: Sacrifices must be made!

You’ve added higher rez textures. You beefed up the flora. You improved Skyrim’s outdated memory and core/thread management. The game looks fantastic and you are ready for MOAR!!! Now it’s time to add Framekiller #3. The lighting and weather mods.

There’s just one problem. You find that when you add a lighting/weather mod like Enhanced Lighting and FX, http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/27043/? your framerate heads into the toilet and you start crashing like a Boss. WHAT VILE SORCERY IS THIS!?!?!?! THIS MOD SUCKS!!!

No, it doesn’t and Unfortunately it’s the sorcery of simple math. You have hit the limits of the mighty Titan, at least as far as Skyrim’s ability to use it is concerned. With three of the most intensive GPU hogs (By their powers combined!) we can use, added to Skyrim’s kludged 32 bit code and the processing overhead VorpX places on the system, You done sailed into the perfect modding storm. Talos frowns on your Shennanigans and Clavicus Vile revels in your suffering.

Now what? Once you’ve seen the glory, there’s no going back. You’ll always know how good it looked and be miserable playing at lesser visuals knowing what could be. Actually, you’ve only seen ‘part’ of the glory.

(Puts on Matrix hat) Neo, what if I told you that I currently have 106 mods loaded up, Skyrim looks better than I have ever seen it, there’s no crashing involved and I’m still pulling 43-45FPS in all but the traditional trouble areas? This is the art of compromise and balance. Give some here to gain some there. Pay attention to the things that matter, etc.

Here’s what I discovered. Skyrim’s code, more than anything else is your real limiter. Not the GPU. Not the CPU. Although they certainly play a part. Yet when I was back to a slow, stuttering mess, the absolute worst I saw in Afterburner’s monitors was the Titan spiking once into the 80% use range and the CPU into the 70s. The Titan COULD handle a lot more mods. VorpX could process them just fine.But 32 bit DX9 Skyrim CANNOT.

First is the memory cap. With the HD textures, SFO and ELFX, I hit the 4 gig memory cap during heavy weather events and crashed. and even without the weather events going on, Skyrim simply was not processing the data it need to at the rate it needed to through/with VorpX.

Now is this a VorpX issue? No, because flipping over to Fallout 4 in Geometry mode with ALL the sliders maxed out and weather/lighting/flora mods and textures running, the Titan cruises at that 45FPS without a problem. The major difference is 32 bit DX9 vs 64 bit DX11 and far older and more inefficient coding.

Yea so what do we do now?

You mod smarter so that terrible and Mighty Talos, he who is both man and DIVINE! (hat tip to Heimsker) will haZ a happy.

Remember back to what I refered to earlier. What matters to you most? Do you need 2048 rez textures? or even 1024? Do you need a massive increase in the variety of flora to fill the spaces as you look across Tamriel or just better versions of whats already there? Are you satisfied with the stock weather or do you want more storm in your life? And what combo of the above will get Talos to his happy place?

You might notice that I left out lighting. Because IMO, that one isn’t negotiable. Skyrim’s stock lighting works, but it washes everything out. Nothing is ever truly dark in Skyrim, day or night, north or south, mountaintop or deepest dungeon. It’s at worst, eternal twilight. For me, that’s a ‘must fix’ at the cost of anything else because properly lit, even lower rez textures look a lot better.

Up next: DynDoLod

[sponge101]

Just started testing the game but when I enter the vault there’s a pixelated shadow emanating from faces of people and objects that light is shinning against. Moreover, with G3D there’s a blury smear from everything when I’m moving. Probably normal but just wanted to report it.

Just want to say how grateful I am for Vorpx. Amazing piece of software.

[Fredthehound]

Hi all,

As promised, This thread will be dedicated to giving you the rundown of my experience with the new Titan X Pascal and Skyrim/Fallout. Expect it to go on for a while as there are a ton of variables to cover.

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Computer:
i7 4790K @4.7Ghz on water
240GB x2 Kingston HyperX Savage SSDs in Raid 0
16 gig of 2400mhz Gskill Trident DDR3 ram
Titan X Pascal overclocked +230/+500
HTC Vive
Process Lasso software using Bitsum Highest Performance preset
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I’ll start by saying that if you saw the other thread about the 1080, you’ll already know that the Titan Pascal can handle a metric ton of mods IN GEOMETRY MODE and return smooth, playable framerates at an enjoyable level – depending on your tolerance. But to be clear, this card running in the upper 30FPS range feels smoother by far than my old Crossfire 390s running in the 40s. No microstutter is a beautiful thing. The best part is you’ll rarely see under 40FPS even with a ton of mods on the TXP (Titan X Pascal) if you mod smart.

Now to begin with, I loaded a fresh and bone stock install of Skyrim. No ini tweaking, nothing. 100% stock install as Todd Howard intended. No updates beyond those baked into the Steam install. No Nexus patches. Just vanilla/stock Skyrim. With all sliders maxed in non VR at 1920×1080, FRAPS never moved off 60FPS no matter where I went or what I did. Glued. Not really surprising as my 390s would do the same thing. But thats the baseline.

For most testing, I’ll be using my normal three areas. Whiterun/Dragonreach, Whiterun to Riverwood and the forest outside Falkreath. I find they are the most demanding on the system with a ton of draw calls and it makes for a semi-repeatable benchmark. Leave Whiterun, go to Falkreath via Riverwood and you have three of the most CPU/GPU demanding areas of the vanilla game.

To get the basics out of the way, I’ll condense. Bone stock install. No ini tweaks. Geometry mode. Skyrim set in it’s launcher/config to “High” (not ‘ULTRA”) preset. VorpX set to the standard/recommended/Optimizer settings.

With that out of the way, Ill condense a bit more. I’ll refer to the Whiterun (top of Dragonreach stairs)/Riverwood/Falkreath run as WRF henceforth. Or FRW when reversing the run from Falkreath to Whiterun.

With the above settings in place, day or night, WRF or FRW, you get 43-45FPS. And it is smooth like butter.

If you increase the Ambient Occlusion to 16 from the setting of 8 that High provides, you get 43-45FPS. If you Supersample/increase internal resolution to 2.0, while at 16 AO, you get 43-45FPS. The only time you will see a different FPS is on a cell change or a load screen. The Titan, and the CPU, are just cruising with no effort.

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OK so that’s the baseline. If you are crazy enough to go buy a Titan, that’s what you’ll see for FPS playing bone stock Skyrim with no mods and no performance tweaking.

Why not start with Ultra? A couple reasons. One, as Ralf pointed out, the 1080/Titan will handle geometry mode on High settings in different games if you don’t get crazy. And another, because ‘Ultra’ Shadows/draw distances will immediately destroy your framerate and make the game unplayable. (well fix the draw distance problem with a mod a bit later down the road).

So basing everything off of High and moving up as we go along makes more sense to me and it will give those unfamiliar with modding a look at what Skyrim/VorpX can do with a Titan powering it. Ultra Shadow/draw distances combined with the almost non existent multithreading of the vanilla game will ruin your day in VorpX. On a monitor, FRAPS never leaves 60FPS on fully maxed settings no matter what. But it doesn’t take a Titan to pull that trick off. An old R9-290 will do it all day long. But VR is a different animal and modding in it throws conventional wisdom out the window. You basically HAVE to mod your way around issues like this. And you can.

Next up:

Before the weather and lighting mods, the first place most people go is higher rez texture packs. But while the Titan has VRAM to spare, Skyrim’s 32 bit DX9 code, combined with Windows 10’s 4 gig hard limit on it means that 4K textures are best left to the details that make the most difference…Bodies/Armor. And believe me, a supersampled 2K texture at x16 AO is VERY nice to look at even at the standard VorpX/Vive resolutions. In most cases, 4K textures are a waste. Personally, I would rather have 4K people and armor since those are what you see and interact with. The better those look, the easier it is to buy that a world full of talking dragons and plagues of knee-arrowed former adventures and less than photoreal textures is almost ‘real’. And thats what VR is all about in the first place.

For the next test, I’ll be installing the 2K ‘LITE” texture pack from the Nexus, followed by the known FPS killer. Skyrim Flora Overhaul. Conventional wisdom says these should show a very noticeable impact, especially considering that 2.0 upscaling is in effect. But lets see what happens to the framerate before we get into the Ini files to counter it with heavier voodoo.

Stay tuned.

[maximus2k16]

I can confirm that ENB injector works, someone had to, but alas only for the 32 bit Reshade. Does anyone have any ideas on how to inject the 64 bit Reshade into games like Fallout 4, GTA V etc, so it can also be used in combination with Vorpx, surely there has to be an injector which can handle 64bit dll’s? As i’d love to use Reshade AND Vorpx with all the latest games

[Fredthehound]

Hi all,

Well, first impressions are in. The card is a monster as expected. But there are some very strange goings on in the numbers that are going to take some figuring out because I’m not sure what to make of them. And not just in Skyrim.

Time Spy, the benchmark, returned a 15 FPS framerate so something is seriously amiss right off the bat.

On the other hand, Fallout 4 on a conventional monitor, with every setting it has maxed just freaking glued itself to 60FPS. Now for Skyrim…

First, in the worst case scenario, with all the mods piled on that I had listed above and more (for testing purposes), I went from a low of 17FPS to a low of 33 FPS on the Dragonreach stairs.

Outside is far better with 40-45 FPS being fairly common but upper 30s to lower 40s being the majority. And it looks beyond glorious. It is also a lot smoother at those framerates than you’d expect. Dare I say playable if your tolerance is high.

None of that is surprising considering the Time Spy strangeness. What IS surprising is that SHADOWS have such an impact. Even this beast of a card cannot overcome the Bethesda coding for shadows as it sits. If you back the shadow detail way off, it becomes very playable even with all those HD mods. But of course you lose a ton of the atmosphere they provide.

Further confusion sets in because the GPU never spiked higher than about 65% usage and the CPU was cruising in the 40% range the whole time. So I don’t think it’s draw calls that can be pointed to exclusively here. Even spinning it’s wheels with whatever is going on, I still saw a boost of significant proportions.

Lastly, I am not sure I can trust the numbers I DO have because although recognizing it as a Titan X Pascal, Afterburner may not be reporting correctly. Even overclocking +150 and diming the power target/temp threshold, the card never boosted above 1750 and all the reports are those settings will get you in the 1900+ range.

So as for my first impression. Was it worth it? Trust me. I just saw Skyrim like I have never seen it before. It was worth it. Now, it’s a matter of learning what this card likes and what it doesnt. And what exactly is going on/going wrong. With that 15 FPS in Time Spy, none of this current Skyrim performance should be trusted.

Also consider that as a rank noob to Nvidia, I have a lot to learn there so I’m just going with basic settings/and the standard (so far) overclock that the forums have discussed.

Lastly, consider that this is on an install of Skyrim whose ini files etc. were optimized for AMD/Crossfire and that could certainly be in play here as well. In fact, it’s a certainty.

So, what I’m going to do is a ground-up fresh install and document my experiences with it on a separate thread I’ll post once I get the basics together.

And start researching why the hell Time Spy is at 15FPS.