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  • #211149

    In reply to: Daz 3D

    Minabe
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    You can render a SBS video with DAZ which you can watch with vorpX (or any other sbs video player) but makes absolutely no sense for vorpX to work with DAZ itself as DAZ is a rendering software.

    #210841
    Ralf
    Keymaster

    The vorpX side-by-side output lies somewhat in the middle between ‘normal’ SBS and full size techniques quality wise since it actually renders a full sized image and then scales it down horizontically afterwards. You essentially get a 2×1 supersampled image that way. So while there is some detail loss from the post process scaling, the result is still a lot better compared to doing the actual render at half width.

    #210659

    In reply to: Yuzu

    drowhunter
    Participant

    You should try Reshade with the SUperDepth3d plugin it works great.

    You can use Vorpx Desktop Viewer and switch to SBS Mode to view it , or better yet use the VR Companion App

    #210634
    Minabe
    Participant

    vorpX only works with videos locally, technically you could do it with SBS and vorpX’s Desktop Viewer but that won’t work with 360° videos on Youtube. For that your best bet is to use an app designed for it like Youtube VR (Oculus Store, Steam’s sucked hard af last i checked for WMR at least) or DeoVR Video Player (you may need to manually configure it for 360° videos).

    #210617
    Ralf
    Keymaster

    If you play the 3d video in SBS format, you can switch the image input type to SBS in the vorpX menu to see it in 3D.

    SpeedRider
    Participant

    hello im looking for a way to watch 3D content from videos or look at pictures using vorpx.
    is there a way to do this with the desktop viewer or to have a vorpx display that says it has 3D compatibility to youtube

    #210590
    FrankHorigan
    Participant

    I also think that 3D-SBS technology is not bad at all. 3D technology is not for medium current, but it is excellent for specific applications. And even today.

    mr_spongeworthy
    Participant

    I have very good luck with the SBS mode overall and pretty frequently switch to it for certain titles where 3D is really the entire point. I mean, there really isn’t any reason to play a title like Greedfall in a HMD and you’re just putting hours on an expensive piece of equipment.

    Even though it’s just a good-faith add-on I’m very happy with it. Only downside is that I find Over/Under is FAR better on my display. I think that’s pretty common; something with the way our eyes perceive detail. I have to use massive amounts of downsampling to get a good result out of SBS mode; as in render the title at 4k and downsample to my 1080p display. In O/U mode it’s fine as low as 1080p native title rendering (although more is always better of course).

    Hoping you someday add O/U mode; in theory it should be pretty easy to do.

    Ralf
    Keymaster

    @ Lewy: The SBS 3D output is an unsupported goodie for users who wated to try that. The message in that respect that is shown each time you launch a game in SBS 3D mode is there for a reason.

    I understand that the recent developments regarding S3D gaming are very frustrating, but unfortunately I have more than enough on my plate with VR. vorpX was never and will never be intended for S3D gaming. Sorry again. :(

    Ralf
    Keymaster

    like said above vorpX is built for VR and that will stay its main focus. Consider the SBS 3D output a more or less unsupported goodie. It was requested quite a few times by users and thus it was added at some point, but unfortunately I just don’t have enough time to make it a priority. :(

    mr_spongeworthy
    Participant

    @Lewy1984 Good luck with this! I too still often play on a 3D monitor as it’s simply so much more relaxing than having to wear and HMD for games that you are really just wanting stereoscopy.

    I have very good luck now with vorpX (wish there were more absolutely perfect G3D profiles, *hint* *hint*) and SuperDepth3D is probably your best bet for titles that don’t work with vorpX or for a few other valid reasons (for example if a title is so bad you simply *have* to run other ReShade shaders; that will generally be incompatible with vorpX).

    For example, Detroit Become Human looks and runs fantastic on my 3D display using SuperDepth3D, but other titles look and run better using vorpX; especially any title with a working G3D profile (Fallout 3, FNV). It’s an unfortunate matter of trial-and-error, but in the end you can still get reasonably good results.

    Tip: If you routinely switch between different techniques or devices you can make zipped backups of your critical settings files and then label the archives properly. I move between my 3D display and HMD for Greedfall, for example, so I have “GreedFallPrefs3D.zip” and “GreedFallPrefsHMD.zip” – that way I can just extract the correct prefs and move them into place rather than wasting time manually configuring settings whenever I change my display device.

    What 4K 3D projector do you have? Does it support any 4K 3D modes? I’ve been stereoscopic gaming about 12 years also and had a 720p DLP (I used it in frame-packing-mode; so it looked very sharp even at 720p). I have 3 sets of Optima shutter glasses currently, but no 3D projector at this time. I’ve been holding-out for a new standard that supports actual 4K 3D; but most projectors seem to switch to 1080P for any form of 3D output? Even though frame-packing is a thing of the past except for Blu Rays, it would be nice to find a projector that could do, for example, SBS and Top/Bottom 3D modes at 4K rather than 1080p.

    Ralf
    Keymaster

    There is an SBS 3D output option since quite a while, you can select it in the config app instead of one of the VR output options. Keep in mind though that vorpX was primarily built for VR and VR will stay its main and only focus.

    Lewy1984
    Participant

    Hello, I’m new in this forum. I read the topic with enthusiasm. Why was the topic not pursued further in 2020? I have an hp reverp g2. I bought the vorpx program in 2016 when I still had my oculus rift. I never really used the program. But now I’m interested in the generic 3d display mod. i have been a passionate 3d player for 12 years. I still use: 3dtv play, reshade3d, trifef 3d and sbs if a game supports it.

    I would be happy if someone reports here. Thanks.

    Best regards,
    Lewy

    #210463
    Lewy1984
    Participant

    Hello, I’m new in this forum. I read the topic with enthusiasm. Why was the topic not pursued further in 2020? I have an hp reverp g2. I bought the vorpx program in 2016 when I still had my oculus rift. I never really used the program. But now I’m interested in the generic 3d display mod. i have been a passionate 3d player for 12 years. I still use: 3dtv play, reshade3d, trifef 3d and sbs if a game supports it.

    I would be happy if someone reports here. Thanks.

    Best regards,
    Lewy

    #210091
    Endlessdescent
    Participant

    What is the difference between Zadaptive and G3D? I have been reading posts that say Dx12 doesn’t work well such as this one…

    There are a handful of supported DX12 games. Some that I know of: RDR2, Cyberpunk, Deus EX MD. But they’re either flat or Z3D.

    For games that support mods there is a workaround to get G3D by using AFR (alternate frame rendering) where the mod changes camera position on each frame to match each eye. But since the game does not stop between frames each eye will see a slightly different scene (unless the mod can also hack timing). Still it’s a lot of work for each game. RDR2 is probably the only DX12 title with such a mod.

    Other than that it might be possible if the game itself has built-in SBS support. However there is no SBS profile for DX12 that I know of.

    So there is quite a lot of effort going into DX12. However my understanding is that G3D is not possible (at least not in the same way as for DX9/10/11). But you can hook into DX12 games and at the very least you get a flat screen in VR. For some you’ll also get Z3D or AFR (and maybe SBS in the future).

    If the games only play on a flat screen, that is already possible without Vorpx using Vive Theatre mode or SteamVR or similar software.

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