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I am totally with you senoctar and i actually already hook onto every game i am playing with vorpX, regardless what features i am using or how i configurate it.
I was a little stressed when i bought vorpX, with being well aware of this nice piece of software probably being a little “stressful” to configurate for beginners, so since i already had my fun with “theater-screens” i just felt for using vorpX for nothing else than that at this moment, until i felt like having enough time to dig into the other aspects of it and finding out things for myself.
On the subject of other software, in my opinion steam´s virtual desktop had several flaws with certain games stuttering on it while bigscreen beta was much better but also suffering flaws vorpX doesn´t, most of all the fact bigscreen is much more demanding on hardware and some games even stuttering as well or constantly crash as soon you jump from the menu into the game.
Still talking bigscreen beta, i have to say there is also some major “flaw” who is actually somehow slight “positive”. I am talkin about its general picture quality, for example if you pull the screen real close, you have a pretty unsharp picture quality compared to that great one you have with vorpX, now when you get the right distance inside bigscreen beta, the overal picture quality gets that slight “washed out” look, in my opinion making pixel-sidescrollers look a little better than on vorpX or any other monitor, but that again is “useless” once you add the 3d-effect with vorpx.
There is only ONE real big PLUS side with bigscreen beta, and that is the option of making the virtual-desktop-screen alot bigger than currently available with vorpX, but that feature is useless with bigscreen beta and certain games who stutter or refuse to run at all, so i´d love to see this “bigger” feature on vorpX too one day.
It´s a great game, especially a must-have for sidescroller-fans!
BTW i got it for free on the EGS as one of its free-exlusives some time ago, not sure if it´s still free tho but i guess not.
LOL i am playing it right now, it´s my first diablo-clone i am actually playing in vorpX-3D and it is amazing, like this game was being made for 3D, that makes me wonder how other similiar style games look like.
The only slight “downside” is getting used to the mouse-arrow being placed a little “above” the battlefield (so it fits into the menus), so this is could be a little confusing at the beginning.
Feel for trying vorpX with so many other games out there, sadly not enough time but most of all…now enough HDD-space left, let alone the fact i probably couldn´t even complete that amount of games in a short time since new interesting games are still coming out as well.
Skyrim absolutely sucked in VR and I could never get it to work properly.
Well as far as i remember, they totally fu**ed up SKYRIM VR and FALLOUT VR, on the other hand…the community worked out something like 1000s of mods to make (at least SKYRIM VR) work better…but that again means to fu** around with trying out those mods to begin with, so all in all i guess those games are a pretty pain in the a** in VR after all. (no clue if there are vorpX profiles for them, haven´t looked for them yet coz there are hundreds of other titles i feel more important to try out in vorpX)
But there are native VR games to play seated …and I have to say that there are a LOT of those.
You just need to get those types of controls, and you will get full VR around you with the way to control as you want.Well of course i am aware of it and i also played a few good titles in VR, the main problem here is that all in all i wasn´t THAT hooked onto those games as probably other users are.
But what really made me hooked is playing all “regular” games on this huge theater screen in bigscreen beta, despite having it´s flaws, in fact flaws which vorpX doesn´t suffer from and that was the reason for me to buy vorpX to begin with, regardless of whether or not me using it the “appropriate”way, as some other users here were trying so hard to get me to (in that certain way i felt wasn´t right, so that´s why i felt for replying in a certain “harsh” way, but then again i don´t call myself “toxic” for nothing)
So, as i already said, it was actually bigscreen beta and vorpX who saved VR for me, neither HL:ALYX nor all those game developers trying so hard to bring great VR games, coz now i am actually get in the mood again to finally dig myself more into full VR experiences than ever before, and if i am gettin somehow bored with exclusive VR titles again, then there is still the joy of playing regular games on huge theater-screens and that is finally the experience i never want to miss out on ever again.
Since i enjoyed my first game on a theater screen, i wasn´t playing any game without my VR goggles ever again, now i just hope VR goggles can actually handle being used on a daily basis, for several hours a day.
DX12 games require a hook helper.
I couldn´t get GHOSTRUNNER to work (didn´t use a cloud profile by intention, to figure things out by myself a little, since i am still new to this whole experience) in DX12 with or without hookhelper but it works like a charm with DX11.
Now i am trying MARVEL AVENGERS while having no success with neither hook helper installed or not.
Then figured out it´s a DX12 game, but checked that when “-force-d3d11” get´s added into the steam-start configuration for this game then the game gets forced to run in DX11 but then it refuses as well, no matter if with hooker or not.
Guess i am gonna play this in virtual desktop mode after all then…besides….they pretty fu**ed up this game, all those years waiting for a game like this and then it´s mostly a brainless wrestling-like brawler, this is real sad somehow.
If in doubt, just don’t post anything that could be interpreted as being offensive. The OPs posts surely aren’t the most coherent ones I’ve read here recently, but he didn’t even talk to you. So there was no real reason for you to accuse him of anything in the way you did. Thanks.
That´s right he wasn´t talkin to me, he actually made an open “question” free for anyone to reply, as i understood it, so since Adam was supposed to make up his mind one week ago in that other thread already, it looks like his final shot at the subject either went missing along with coming up with another bunch of somehow “useless” questions or……well whatever, it´s anyway not me wasting his time helping Trolls when there are other people being in actual more serious need of help.
PS: Just don´t take it too personal Ralf, i am aware you want to sell your software and as a matter of fact being more open to everyone, but just don´t forget how i was “treated” when people got it a bit wrong here. ;-)
Thanks for the info. I am an abstinent and a non-smoker.
I don’t speak English, so I ask if a new version has to be bought? Or will I have free updates for free?
Your english seems fine enough and this ain´t the problem if you ask me, it´s rather your way of asking useless questions you could as well read from the FAQ here, among useless double-posting every couple of minutes, giving me the idea you´re either clueless to a point where you couldn´t even figure out how to configurate your own vr-goggles let alone using vorpX “the appropriate way”, or plain simple a TROLL.
@Ralf: Remember how i got accused of being a troll, only because i bought vorpX for virtual desktop in the first place (not using it “the apropriate way”)?
Now if people are accused of trolling that easily here, it should be obvious this guy being a mega-troll then after all, but i would apologize if i´d be wrong about him, anyway for some reason i think he will never reply in this thread ever again and vanish into oblivion, troll or not troll.
A good shrink should be able to help you with your current problem since i am afraid it´s related to neither hard- or software but rather to your brain not working as it is supposed to be at this moment.
PS: Your system should better stay off narcotic drugs for a while, at least until your brain works more efficient again so that you´re able to see how stupid your posts may look to others.
Thank you very much Smoils! Really appreciate it!
I anyway keep on trying what possible reasons could be along with trying even more different configurations while i am done with all possible configurations within the game´s settings itself, next thing i try will be as you said, looking for that head-tracking emulation…
PS: Probably the title here wasn´t really picked wisely, as it wrongly reads like xbox-controller actually would cause the stuttering.
TRINE 4 causes some serious stuttering among other troubles on my system, once i am playing it on any virtual desktop, regardless if it´s vorpX, Bigscreen-Beta or Steam´s VD.
While it is stuttering in VR, there ain´t any problem on the monitor. Someone told me he doesn´t have any problem in VR, but i still think it is rather the game causing the troubles on many machines in VR than it is really system related, especially now that i read this here.
I think you charred a few of those bridges to the very people who were trying.
But yeah generally there are some pretty great folks on here.I wasn´t all serious with my remark regarding the troubleshooting section as well i wasn´t serious with my little flame-war from before, it´s just my way with words and i am aware of it probably being pretty offensive for certain people, on the other hand i am also aware that everyone behaves a little or much different once he is jacked in to the net, most people just don´t realize it.
I am not the kind of guy who cries for help on every occasion, except i am in a hurry or plain simple too lazy for finding out things myself (i once asked here because there was a game obviously making trouble on evey virtual desktop software i have and wasn´t sure the game to be the problem or my system), but i prefer doing it on my own because then i tend to learn things better than just reading a tutorial and forgetting what i just did right after i made things work while following it step by step.
At least i got myself enough infos on vorpX before buying it, rather than being one of those dorks (sorry) who rant about it not working properly when it ain´t vorpX fault but people either not being smart enough and/or doing it wrong somehow with just blaming the software on most occasions which all ends up in those negative reviews making vorpX look bad in an unfair kind of way….by the way i am always trying to preferrably read the negative reviews only, to find out about possible flaws and/or stupid people talking crap…like it happens on STEAM with way too many good games being rated down in unfair ways just like it happens occiasonly with vorpX.
(Including Ogrescar who you may remember)
Ogrewho????? LOL jk
Typically you are better off when you let vorpX hook into games, it can do a lot more when running inside a game, even if you only want to play in 2D. Also performance is usually better that way.
I wasn´t getting that part coz i actually thought making it hook can also cause certain problems with certain games and i would be better off to avoid those with not letting it hook in the first place, since it doesn´t need to be hooked in order to play them in 2D anyway.
While you can use the vorpX desktop viewer for playing games ofc if you want, that’s not really what it was made for originally.
Some users buy vorpX and expect it to work flawlessly in full-vr mode with every game and that are those who mostly end up giving unfair negative reviews on vorpX, while they probably wouldn´t give such negative ratings when they would as well make use of and enjoy those other options besides just going in full-vr.
Anyway, i am about to leave my vorpX 2D experience for a couple of hours now and try using it for “what it was made originally” for my first time ever on vorpX.
….just hope people are fast with replying in the troubleshooting section tho…LOL.
I have wanted to play some games without 3D in VorpX just because of the great performance and ambient lighting.
Please use vorpX the way it is supposed to be used and don´t alter the experience into something less immersive! You either go highest immersion possible, or don´t go at all!!!
….LOL sorry i just couldn´t resist this, after my latest discussion went a little out of hand, hehe. Well Ralf was anyway answering you in the meantime.
It’s either hooking or the desktop viewer.
That´s why i pulled my games into the exception-list for the time i am only playing them in desktop mode where no hooking is needed, but for some weird reason some people did not understand my point as to why i would do such a thing when using vorpX with a game, at least i remember some user bringing it up questioning and i still wonder what kind of missunderstanding there could have been.
I think ToxicMike is pretty clearly saying he is living in his own constructed world of gaming
You think? This means there is a possibility of you being wrong, except you´re one of those individuals who think they´re always right, no matter what.
Besides that, each one of us is actually living in his own world…and i am not talking about the world of gaming only, but that is nothing bad, it´s actually normal for human beings.
and doesn’t want any help at the moment learning the actual use of the software he bought.
It looks like you´re the one who haven´t really been reading what´s goin on here the last pages. Someone was rather interested in questioning as to why and how i am using vorpX than actually “helping” me (let alone i did not asked for help here to begin with), the fact that this guy told about this topic being “degraded” makes it even more obvious while it rather seems this topic started to “degrade” once he participated in it…and now you seem to have come taking his place…with that abnormally strong urge to “help” and this constant overused “fake smile”.
If you seriosly think someone just tried to help me, you could as well claim americans “just tried to help” indians having a “better” life, while we both know that there have been other reasons for being….so “helpful”….and as far as i can remember, neither me nor those indians ever asked for help.
Check back here, ToxicMike, when you are ready to use VorpX the intended way.
I am gonna ask Ralf if it is ok for him and vorpX to make personal use of it how i see fit, so when i am not allowed to use it this way and if i am violating any rules here, then i am trying to get a refund…
….until this would happen….you better leave it up to me as to when and where i am checking back here, can you follow me here or was it way too complicated?
No shortage of people ready to help you use the software, as you can see. :)
Again…did i ask for help here? Besides that….could you stop with constantly drawing smilies along with hiding your arrogance underneath this ironic tone, i am well aware of you and this other guy just trying so hard to make yourselfs look way smarter than you probably are…and that is what is probably behind your urge to “help” here, to give people the idea you´re something you´re probably not for real.
To a lot of people, this is like someone buying a hat, then putting it on their foot and wearing it like a shoe and saying they are enjoying it just fine the way it is.
You shouldn´t worry too much about what people think about you, me, or others here, it does not affect our lives in any way, but besides that, you´re talkin about “a lot” of people, which is just “relative” and just one look at threads actually shows the same bunch of people talking mostly, so that even narrows “a lot” down to probably “just a few” rather than “a lot”, but hey…that is the view you have in your own world and i am not criticizing you for that, i may as well have weird views in my own world, but unlike you or your friend, i am not making others views the topic here.
everyone has their things.
You already repeat yourself more than once with this, yet you still go on. So i wonder why you repeat this so often? You´re either don´t believe it yourself or you´re just trying so hard to cover something up here.
You keep on doing you.
Was this a realization? Were you questioning something? Oh sorry, i forgot! You just wanted to help me again.
But you have to expect some “wtf” looks from the head-wearing hat people on the streets trying to help you.
People with hats, no matter if placed on their heads or on their feet, are constantly getting “wtf” looks from all other people wearing no hats at all, so i can perfectly live with getting “wtf” looks from just those kind of people.
:)
Why this forced smilie-overuse? Are you trying to hide something or is there a possibility of blinding yourself so you don´t have to realize how arrogant you actualy behave?
Then you didn’t read the whole thread.
Please stop accusing other users of not reading things here, only because you dislike them for not agreeing with you (…or your friend here), which by the way, seems to be a big issue for you guys, when others aren´t agreeing with you.
I could as well accuse you of not reading things here, for which i am putting up an example now:
Virtual Desktops, this other guy told me about virtual desktops being free and that there is no need in getting vorpX just for the same use, but fact is virtual desktop is not the same as virtual desktop, there are in fact major differences and i could explain as to what differences there are (like bigscreen beta not only having a slightly washed out look, it´s drawing more power from hardware than vorpX does, on the other hand bigscreen beta has a theater-mode view vorpX is currently missing, etc. etc.) but hey….
…you told me you´re here to help me, so i don´t think you need any help in realizing as to what differences there are in virtual desktops, besides that…you seem to know everything already.
:)