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Typically you are better off when you let vorpX hook into games, it can do a lot more when running inside a game, even if you only want to play in 2D. Also performance is usually better that way.
I wasn´t getting that part coz i actually thought making it hook can also cause certain problems with certain games and i would be better off to avoid those with not letting it hook in the first place, since it doesn´t need to be hooked in order to play them in 2D anyway.
While you can use the vorpX desktop viewer for playing games ofc if you want, that’s not really what it was made for originally.
Some users buy vorpX and expect it to work flawlessly in full-vr mode with every game and that are those who mostly end up giving unfair negative reviews on vorpX, while they probably wouldn´t give such negative ratings when they would as well make use of and enjoy those other options besides just going in full-vr.
Anyway, i am about to leave my vorpX 2D experience for a couple of hours now and try using it for “what it was made originally” for my first time ever on vorpX.
….just hope people are fast with replying in the troubleshooting section tho…LOL.
I have wanted to play some games without 3D in VorpX just because of the great performance and ambient lighting.
Please use vorpX the way it is supposed to be used and don´t alter the experience into something less immersive! You either go highest immersion possible, or don´t go at all!!!
….LOL sorry i just couldn´t resist this, after my latest discussion went a little out of hand, hehe. Well Ralf was anyway answering you in the meantime.
It’s either hooking or the desktop viewer.
That´s why i pulled my games into the exception-list for the time i am only playing them in desktop mode where no hooking is needed, but for some weird reason some people did not understand my point as to why i would do such a thing when using vorpX with a game, at least i remember some user bringing it up questioning and i still wonder what kind of missunderstanding there could have been.
I think ToxicMike is pretty clearly saying he is living in his own constructed world of gaming
You think? This means there is a possibility of you being wrong, except you´re one of those individuals who think they´re always right, no matter what.
Besides that, each one of us is actually living in his own world…and i am not talking about the world of gaming only, but that is nothing bad, it´s actually normal for human beings.
and doesn’t want any help at the moment learning the actual use of the software he bought.
It looks like you´re the one who haven´t really been reading what´s goin on here the last pages. Someone was rather interested in questioning as to why and how i am using vorpX than actually “helping” me (let alone i did not asked for help here to begin with), the fact that this guy told about this topic being “degraded” makes it even more obvious while it rather seems this topic started to “degrade” once he participated in it…and now you seem to have come taking his place…with that abnormally strong urge to “help” and this constant overused “fake smile”.
If you seriosly think someone just tried to help me, you could as well claim americans “just tried to help” indians having a “better” life, while we both know that there have been other reasons for being….so “helpful”….and as far as i can remember, neither me nor those indians ever asked for help.
Check back here, ToxicMike, when you are ready to use VorpX the intended way.
I am gonna ask Ralf if it is ok for him and vorpX to make personal use of it how i see fit, so when i am not allowed to use it this way and if i am violating any rules here, then i am trying to get a refund…
….until this would happen….you better leave it up to me as to when and where i am checking back here, can you follow me here or was it way too complicated?
No shortage of people ready to help you use the software, as you can see. :)
Again…did i ask for help here? Besides that….could you stop with constantly drawing smilies along with hiding your arrogance underneath this ironic tone, i am well aware of you and this other guy just trying so hard to make yourselfs look way smarter than you probably are…and that is what is probably behind your urge to “help” here, to give people the idea you´re something you´re probably not for real.
To a lot of people, this is like someone buying a hat, then putting it on their foot and wearing it like a shoe and saying they are enjoying it just fine the way it is.
You shouldn´t worry too much about what people think about you, me, or others here, it does not affect our lives in any way, but besides that, you´re talkin about “a lot” of people, which is just “relative” and just one look at threads actually shows the same bunch of people talking mostly, so that even narrows “a lot” down to probably “just a few” rather than “a lot”, but hey…that is the view you have in your own world and i am not criticizing you for that, i may as well have weird views in my own world, but unlike you or your friend, i am not making others views the topic here.
everyone has their things.
You already repeat yourself more than once with this, yet you still go on. So i wonder why you repeat this so often? You´re either don´t believe it yourself or you´re just trying so hard to cover something up here.
You keep on doing you.
Was this a realization? Were you questioning something? Oh sorry, i forgot! You just wanted to help me again.
But you have to expect some “wtf” looks from the head-wearing hat people on the streets trying to help you.
People with hats, no matter if placed on their heads or on their feet, are constantly getting “wtf” looks from all other people wearing no hats at all, so i can perfectly live with getting “wtf” looks from just those kind of people.
:)
Why this forced smilie-overuse? Are you trying to hide something or is there a possibility of blinding yourself so you don´t have to realize how arrogant you actualy behave?
Then you didn’t read the whole thread.
Please stop accusing other users of not reading things here, only because you dislike them for not agreeing with you (…or your friend here), which by the way, seems to be a big issue for you guys, when others aren´t agreeing with you.
I could as well accuse you of not reading things here, for which i am putting up an example now:
Virtual Desktops, this other guy told me about virtual desktops being free and that there is no need in getting vorpX just for the same use, but fact is virtual desktop is not the same as virtual desktop, there are in fact major differences and i could explain as to what differences there are (like bigscreen beta not only having a slightly washed out look, it´s drawing more power from hardware than vorpX does, on the other hand bigscreen beta has a theater-mode view vorpX is currently missing, etc. etc.) but hey….
…you told me you´re here to help me, so i don´t think you need any help in realizing as to what differences there are in virtual desktops, besides that…you seem to know everything already.
:)
looks op is missing vorpx whole point.
…i think the same thing about game developers probably missing the whole point of nvidia´s RTX cards when i look at how sadly RAYTRACING is used…IF it´s even used….or is it dead already and i missed the news?
but he should also try the amazing others vorpx features ^^
There are other vorpX features than just having a virtual 2D screen inside my vr-goggles?
;-)
You’re not using vorpx for anything other than a desktop viewer.
I am actually using bigscreen beta and bought vorpX because it gives me additional screen-modes being better than those in bsbeta or not even existing there. Now along with vorpX´s full-vr and that 3D feature i had no doubts to buy a great piece of software, even when i am actually not even using half of its potential at this moment.
If you´re having more questions regarding the question why i am even using vorpX or how i am using it and/or probably how i am living my life in general, just ask.
If that’s all you want,
Yes, currently this is all i want and i am also aware of wanting it all that way.
you could have saved yourself some money and bought Virtual Desktop.
Saving money? Excuse me, but you already worry so much about why and how i am using vorpX, i really don´t want you to worry about my finances too.
Regarding Virtual Desktop, hope you´re not shocked when you read this, but i got bigscreen beta and other virtual desktops for free and bought vorpX afterwards!
I can think of at least 3 free desktop-to-hmd apps out there to do the same thing.
….yes i already got the idea that you´re probably the smartest in here who knows everything.
Whatever. This started out as an interesting topic but it’s degraded into a wtf sort of thing. You can call it an immersive screen if you want, but if it’s flat it’s not very immersive, imo.
You just said “whatever” and then you just go on, so what now? If this topic has in your opinion “degraded” and you think “whatever” then there is no further reason in replying, let alone explaining things coz….well…..whatever!
I want to be sure I am not throwing my money away (as little as 40 usd, but still).
Let me guess, it´s not that you couldn´t afford to buy vorpX, but your wife gives you hell when she finds out you wasted money for useless crap again?
I googled and found absolutely different reviews – some say vorpx is great, some say it is too bad and that’s why it has no demo and no money back option. I am not biased in any way – I just want to find truth.
The truth? What really is that? If i read someone claims vorpX to be crap, i´d call him a liar coz MY TRUTH is vorpX being great.
For that same reason i think it would be useless to tell you MY TRUTH about vorpX coz that will not guarantee you paying 40 bucks without ever getting the idea you probably threw money out of the window that day.
If i am supposed to give you a tip then i could only suggest you thinking of all the money you wasted for useless things all your entire life until today….you said it yourself that 40 bucks is “little” so in contrast to your “money-thrown-out-of-the-window”-lifespan-total those 40 bucks probably appear to be quantum-sized so you can stop worrying and just buy the damn thing regardless if you “throw money away” or not.
Switch the game to a windowed mode. You’re running fullscreen.
The problem is more within the game rather than vorpX, i already went through lots of crap until i was ale to play it, like the game showing up in a total weird cellphone-like aspect ratio i´ve yet never seen on any game, took me some time to make it run since there was a conflict between vorpX and this stupid game´s video configuration, so then it worked and then again stopped, goin to look at the subject deeper within the next few days probably, meanwhile goin to play those games who work flawless as usual.
You can get a lot more out of it.
Oh sure i can get out A LOT more out of it! I am well aware of it, but i am not in a hurry plus i already have great fun with the “regular” immersive mode, i am goin into it deeper once i got the idea of having wasted enough time with “just” the immersive screen.
You can’t put games in the excluded list and play them with vorpx, unless you’re using the desktop viewer.
I am afraid i can, coz that´s what i am doing the whole time. I also have the vorpX-mouse-pointer and of course i see my games on every virtual screen vorpX has, wether it is cinema-mode (including all aspect ratios) or immersive screen mode, including all options i can alter with the menu (delete-button to show it)
Here is again what i wrote:
“Fact is i put games i am playing on the immersive screen, into the excluded list, to avoid useless problems i could have, while i am not needing those games to be hooked anyway after all.”Since there could be several problems with vorpX on several unsupportet (or not entierely supportet) games, i decided to not let it hook to those games, which as i understand it, is not really needed when i am not up to use full-vr-mode or 3d-mode.
I can’t tell if I’m being mega-trolled or not.
Yeah… you really need to turn on Z3D or G3D, but they should be set up automatically by most game profiles already, so not sure why you haven’t seen any 3D.
As i said, i am still new to vorpX and haven´t really put much time into getting to know things, most of all coz playing on this big 2D screen is already doin it for me.
Fact is i put games i am playing on the immersive screen, into the excluded list, to avoid useless problems i could have, while i am not needing those games to be hooked anyway after all.
Once i have played enough games on that immersive-mode-screen, i am goin to dig into the other apsects of vorpX, including full VR modes and this 3D mode, i have fun finding things out for myself, rather than askin questions with making a shitload of threads, except there is a problem i seem to be unable to identify of why it is happening, like i am having it right now, but i am not handling the subject here in this thread.
since maybe a year almost nothing good has been released for PSVR anymore.
PCVR same thing – when you look at the pcvr releases the last year.. most of them are small crappy games. So I’m extremely happy with Vorpx, especially now that I have it running perfectly on my G2.
The extremely low amount of good VR games released lately does make me worry a bit about the future of VR in general.Yes i also noticed a certain lack of new (and most of all “good/interesting”) vr-games on steam, i am usually not that negative but i was thinking to myself like “Is this already the beginning of the end?”
Well let´s hope not, even that i don´t really care about real/full vr-titles and mostly play on immersive-screen-modes, when VR is dead then so is vorpx and everything else related to VR. My worries are even more when i remember 3D-Blu-Rays/TV-Sets, who are officially abandoned by the industry already one or two years ago (still some people aren´t aware of this and wonder about missing 3D movies), i mean…3D still ain´t VR, but if people aren´t ready for this, as they obviously weren´t for 3D, then….well i don´t wanna think about it too much, it´s still too early i guess.
On the other hand….who would want to watch 3D movies on a expensive 3D-tv set when you can have huge theater screens in 3D inside vr goggles? So 3D could have its resurrection once more people figure out how great it is to watch a movie inside vr goggles (i actually had doubts about it myself, before i tried it)
@ToxicMike,
It almost sounds like your games are flat on the screen? Are you sure you have 3D enabled for your games? Its not like a flat screen at all. Its just a boxed in view of a VR world in full 3D. Its not a “2d screen” at all. I certainly feel like I’m “inside the game”. Thats the whole point.WTF? Wait wait…with the possibility of making myself look like a complete dork now…i am still new to vorpX and i am still not sure about that “3D” look of games? And yes, i see a flat screen inside my goggles, nothing 3D, well at least i haven´t tried yet or looked into such an option.
Does that mean i could use that 3D mode (gotta dig into it in how to activate it) on every game or most games???
I already enjoy my games on this virtual bigass screen and don´t ever wanna get back to my tiny 32inch monitor, but then also in 3D?
“You gotta be fu**in kiddin me!”
-Palmer (The Thing, 1982)Since its fully 3D, I think of it more like looking through a window into a VR world. I don’t really think of it as a “screen” since it fill my whole FOV, and looks 3D.
Well of course that´s right what you say, especially being “surrounded” by this ambient gamescreen-light is something completely missing with any real world screen and adding lots to the atmosphere, but still “vr games” do first of all mean something like “being inside” a game rather than looking at it onto a 2d-screen (even if it´s inside this virtual world), but that is still how i am playing and enjoying them and for sure VR wasn´t just made to experience games this way mostly.
i already said it many times, but Ralf should be awarded & recognized by the whole game industry for this incredible software.
Not sure about the gaming industry in general, but for sure the VR industry should not only honor Ralf but also be very thankful for him and his software, i mean in my case it saved VR for me! If i wouldn´t have found myself playing on this immersive vr-screen, i´d have dumped VR one month ago coz from all my “vr-disappointments” i wasn´t even interested in HALF-LIFE:ALYX anymore.
So in my opinion vorpX did far more for VR than they expected HL:Alyx to do, let alone that Alyx is getting old anyway, but vorpX not.
Getting back to vorpX´s immersive screen and wishes users here have made public. I think i read a few comments where people wanted to have the option to make the screen even bigger plus more distance options:
First of all i think it would be better not to have too many options, coz i often find myself trying out different ways for way too long and still can´t make up my mind what is finally better for my taste, on the other hand…i would definitely say “YES!” to the option of increasing screen size along with increasing distance. Hopefully this would be something Ralf puts into his mind within the next few updates, but i can also live with it not happening.
Native VR games, for me, have been a sad disappointment. Holding my arms out until my shoulders ache in order to fly is not fun; ducking my head down to swim is just stupid; if I want to shoot an arrow give me a button, don’t make me use my controllers like a bow, blah blah blah.
LOL! I played this bow-shooter for about 20 minutes (where i probably shot more arrows than robin hood his entire life) and never went back to it again.
I am also not having any plans in stressing myself that way in a VR-game ever again. There are sure people who luv those bow-shooters (or VR-wave-shooters) but for me it was just plain stressful and annoying.
But the problem ain´t the bow (or bow-technique) coz those wave-shooters where you shoot with a regular gun are also way too stressful in my opinion.
While i love regular non-vr wave-shooters, i have a major problem with them in VR, since in my opinion all thise stressful shooting and dodging into all directions, takes away too much of the immersion, or in other words…i am way too focused on hitting targets while dodging bullets, that i don´t have time to feel “immersed” into the actual game, i mean there is this virtual reality and all what i do is standing there, shooting targets as if my life depends on it, i could as well shoot cans in the real world, that would be almost as “great” as playing a vr-wave shooter.
100% with you.
One day VR will be massive, but for now, I love playing in immersive/cinema modes.
I could never go back.Too funny when i remember that this what i think is so great with VR (immersive 2D-screens/cinema-screens) isn´t what VR is here for in the first place, i mean….LOL…i sit there with my vr-goggles just to see a (huge) 2D-screen most of the times! On the other hand…it´s far cheaper and easier than buying a home-theatre.
On a serious note, i am still amazed about how great my games look on that virtual screen, most of all the generally better gaming-experience it causes, i would have never thought this being possible.
Yes i meant virtual desktop, well thanks Ogrescar.
Weird that it seems to be just TRINE 4 for this moment, with the stuttering only appearing in my vr-goggles BUT NOT on the monitor (so the game itself actually isn´t stuttering).
Occasionally there also happens this: I move my head and the whole desktop all of the sudden starts moving as well, but just for a short moment before it sets itself back to its original place again, causing some slight dizziness for a short moment (happening as well only in TRINE 4 and no other game yet)
Guess i am gonna look for certain programs in the background who probably cause this.
I had the same issue, but in my case it were the total of about 8 older vc_redist-installations i forgot did not just “update” but “installed on top of each others”, obviously causing a conflict here, so i de-installed it (for about 8 times, LOL) and cleaned my system of any of those installations, afterwards installing vorpX once again and then it worked!