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  • #10706

    In reply to: Not getting much 3D

    Ralf
    Keymaster

    The Geometry 3D mode works exactly like 3D Vision, but in VR more 3D does not automatically mean better 3D. Your reference for comparisons should be the real world not some over the top monitor 3D effect, it’s called Virtual Reality after all. :)

    Usually settings are dialed in so that 3D proportions look similar to what you experience in reality. You can get ‘more 3D’ by raising the Eye Separation, but that also means getting wrong 3D compared to the real world. And vorpX on purpose doesn’t allow really extrem values, because those make the world look strangely small and lead to an rather unsettling feeling for many people after a short time.

    This is no error, not even a flaw, it’s just meant that way.

    In Z-Buffer-Mode things are different. More 3D, especially in the forground would be a good thing here, but that is technically impossible in this mode.

    #10626
    Dudesre89
    Participant

    25 hours and counting here. I don’t get this by the 48th hour and i’ll have a refund time. Customer support doesn’t even answer I sent 2 emails and nothing.

    museumsteve
    Participant

    I’m getting this error when trying to run a couple games which are based on the R Factor game.
    “procedure entry point D3DPERF_beginevent could not be located in the dynamic link library d3d9.dll”

    #10527

    In reply to: Registration failed?

    zigmovezig
    Participant

    Okay, figured that out. Apparently i need to disable my antivirus the whole time i attempt to use Vorpx or it will error out on me. lovely

    Though now im getting errors with everything i try saying it cant do headtracking. even on fully supported games

    #10429
    yautja_cetanu
    Participant

    To be honest, I think its got to the point that if it was delayed even further I’d be happy! I think we’ve unfortunately got to the point where if vorpx doesn’t blow people away people are going to give up on drivers altogether. Occulus keep saying that they arn’t great anyway so most people I think are relying on vorpx to prove the concept.

    If its not perfect when its released its got to at least people think “yeah I can see how this will get there”

    #10421
    MrGeddings
    Participant

    cool so it includes a controller mapper too? now thats not a bad deal :-) cant wait to get this. some wrote on other forums oh well tridef is gonna be better they have a bigger team.

    meh. i was not that impressed with their beta the head tracking didnt feel right and game support is around the same as perceptions which is free..and the view render windows seem to ripped from the perception drivers too its like oh great..so you got a big team you say? so why does it feel like a let down? they really should have tested it out more……vorpx i think will rock :-) from the videos i saw on youtube in the rift…and even if the view size is that “smallish” in the rift because the edges are softer and it doesnt just cut off like it does on like unity games/demos. it feels better. but i think you said you have an option to make the “circles” bigger or smaller too which will be nice :-)

    cant wait! nice to know just a few weeks!

    #4205
    golem09
    Participant

    I cannnot agree with MrGeddings attitude either, but I do wonder why Ralf is holding back. In a youtube video from nearly two months ago Cymatic Bruce shows off a build, switching between games without any problems or graphic errors.
    Now, certain advanced features missing could be a concern if Ralf was actually planning to release it to a “larger audience” as he put it, but currently the only possible audience is a mix of game developers and hardcore enthusiasts, that are even going as far as alpha testing hardware.
    I get that it’s not finished, and that there are probably problems behind the scenes that we haven’t glimpsed yet. But the alternative is to not being able to play games at all. So I’ll take a broken version anytime.
    Hell, I’ll take Cymatic Bryce’s two month old superbroken version.

    Of course it’s possible that I still haven’t grasped the whole bigger picture, but that#s what goes through my mind right now.

    Good Luck with vorpX, Ralph!

    #4138
    MrGeddings
    Participant

    Well sir. as i predicted looks like tridef is offically getting on the bandwagon, their beta driver support for the Rift isnt perfect at all.. and its more akin at this stage to the free perception drivers, however they are a larger professinal company and this may simply be the very first stepping stone for them to properly intigrate the Oculus Rift.

    Time to get off your butt and release your driver sir, as even in the beta previews from what ive seen it has better options than is out right now,

    however now the clock is ticking, tridef could easily work on making a well done driver with massive game support and good options

    so if you wait too late your going to be left in the dust. Release Vorpx already do an early adapter thing where people can pay now to get the beta and then get the final release.

    this is your chance sir….otherwise you wait too late and you just might be left in the dust.. tridef could easily improve their driver to support many more games with more options and better head tracking before your vorpx ever sees the light of day.

    i hope this will put a little more pressure on you to release your drivers already.

    but hey good to know another company is actually working on it. its not perfect but a step in the right direction.

    please just release vorpx already, you wait too late and you could easily miss your chance. if tridef ends up getting rift to work with HALF as many games as they do their normal 3d drivers for…..your in trouble. just saying…..

    #2115
    museumsteve
    Participant

    well yeah i understand that you have a job fine. but then again thats more the reason to release the thing now as a beta. you could earn some extra money and then just take it as you go. but whatever. what gets me is just that the fact you havent bothered to commmicate and provided any blog posts or any real updates in months i mean at the very least you could post a video once in a while of your progress you know? i didnt mean to be overly rude (and for the other guy so your saying you woudnt want a person to buy your product who was rude to you. online.thats stupid money is money if you take it so personal thats your problem)

    it would just be nice to hear more updates or some sort of timeline. and i just wish youd go ahead and release the beta to those who wish to be “early adopters” its like what a lot of devs are doing these days, with kickstarter and things like star citizen. i honestly think thats a much better way to do a project anyways ….expecally if you are more transparent and at least try to provide good status updates too. just leaving everyone in the dark on things just is really frustrating.

    but i really think you should release the beta for those who want to pay early that will releave some pressure as you have the beta out for users and can just take more time to work at it at your own pace while earning a bit of money from it. or at least give us a reason for such a long delay when you said it would be out shortly after rifts started shipping..

    but whatever. i guess it comes when it comes. didnt mean to be overly rude but its just frustrating because we are all sitting her wondering whats really going on with VorpX.

    i think a few more updates or somethng would at least help.. updating your blog even just once a month would be better then nothing.

    ..and even when Ralf posts a reply, you spew the same old text. Can you not just leave it now?.
    I can imagine Ralf bows to pressure and releases it in it’s current state and then you cant get a game working properly because people have different OS’s, GPUs, mem etc etc…you’d be here every day again moaning about when the next update is coming.
    I really wish you’d think about these things a bit more rationally.

    For the record, I have had a retail shop for 18 years..and money certainly isn’t money. I’d refuse to sell something to someone that had the tone you have..and I have done and will continue to do so.
    Maybe you don’t read over what you write but regardless of your intention, you are simply rude.

    #2065
    MrGeddings
    Participant

    well yeah i understand that you have a job fine. but then again thats more the reason to release the thing now as a beta. you could earn some extra money and then just take it as you go. but whatever. what gets me is just that the fact you havent bothered to commmicate and provided any blog posts or any real updates in months i mean at the very least you could post a video once in a while of your progress you know? i didnt mean to be overly rude (and for the other guy so your saying you woudnt want a person to buy your product who was rude to you. online.thats stupid money is money if you take it so personal thats your problem)

    it would just be nice to hear more updates or some sort of timeline. and i just wish youd go ahead and release the beta to those who wish to be “early adopters” its like what a lot of devs are doing these days, with kickstarter and things like star citizen. i honestly think thats a much better way to do a project anyways ….expecally if you are more transparent and at least try to provide good status updates too. just leaving everyone in the dark on things just is really frustrating.

    but i really think you should release the beta for those who want to pay early that will releave some pressure as you have the beta out for users and can just take more time to work at it at your own pace while earning a bit of money from it. or at least give us a reason for such a long delay when you said it would be out shortly after rifts started shipping..

    but whatever. i guess it comes when it comes. didnt mean to be overly rude but its just frustrating because we are all sitting her wondering whats really going on with VorpX.

    i think a few more updates or somethng would at least help.. updating your blog even just once a month would be better then nothing.

    #2052

    In reply to: vaporware?

    Glitch1336
    Participant

    I’m going to toss this quote in from the FAQ:
    —————————————————————————-

    “When will it be available?”

    “No exact date has been set yet, but a first release should be available not too long after the Rift devkit arrives. vorpX is developed with a taped together prototype, similar to the official Rift prototypes you may have seen in videos, but some things have to be adjusted for the real thing once it is available.”

    —————————————————————————-

    Ralph, if you even read these forums at all anymore, you still have this posted, yet we know you got your Rift kit months ago. An explanation and update is in order.

    #2044

    In reply to: vaporware?

    MrGeddings
    Participant

    i agree with you. I honestly think hes being a dick. I mean you dont annouce some awesome cool driver that will make a library of games work with it and then come out with some awesome cool beta previews for people and then stop updating yoru website. 3 months he hasnt updated his blog. 3 months.

    i dont think its vaperware judging by the fact a beta actually is out to “the select few”

    its just hes locked himself up in some dark hole and hes in his little world and it will come out when he “magically” decides it will.

    all i got from him in an email near the start of the month (thanks by the way for ignoring my past two messages and only emailing me back that one time)

    is that it will be out “well before” the consumer version.

    whatever the hell that means.

    release the damn thing already. if its in beta version thats prob good enough for us!

    THIS IS FOR A DEVELOPMENT KIT IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE PERFECT RATHER THEN DOING EVERYTHING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WHY DONT YOU LET PEOPLE HELP BE PART OF THE DEVELOMMENT PROCESS BY HAVING THEM BUY THE EARLY VERSOIN AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND YOULL GET MONEY FROM IT TOO!

    whatever. folks this is how NOT to do a oculus rift driver. dont annouce how awesomely kool it will be and provide nice beta previews and then just totally not give a (pardon me) fuck. about your “fan base”.

    which honestly pretty much everyone who owns a Rift would be interested in this.

    but whatever. im sure it will come out when he “magically” decides it is “ready”.

    though i wonder what yard stick he is trying to mesure up to for it to be “ready”.

    thats the problem with programs. they could be developed forever.. but theres a point you need to come to when you decide hey..it might be a great time to release it now.

    whatever.

    your a dick for posting all that cool info about it then not even bothering to update the site or have ANy timeframe whatsoever over it

    but whatever. well at least you arnt going to half ass it like the guy who made the perception drivers so.

    but theres a middle ground on one hand you dont want to make a product that only supports a few games and doesnt work the “best” but on the other hand you dont want to take FOREVER and leave people in the dark of your progress too.;

    ugh.

    oh well. its his loss too because hes just missing out on the money he could be making right now from it.

    and thats the stupid part its a lose lose for both of us , him and us the longer he waits!

    and he risks another company like tridef coming out with a better solution. they told me they have dev kits but arnt willing to annouce anything yet as im sure they are waiting to have things working well.

    think about it. they already have a side by side 3d driver for games with it (that works with i think like 800 games) al they have to do is figure out how to do prewarping and head tracking and.

    they could release a product (as they are a bigger company and not just one person) that could blow away Vorpx.

    so yeah.

    whatever.

    and those beta previews were freaking MOTNHS ago. since then no one on youtube or any other site has posted anything else more about it

    its like maybe he told them to stop talking about it

    roadtoVR was supposed to post a update on the user interface and stuff too which they never did.

    WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH VORPX?

    ARE YOU EVEN STILL WORKING ON IT? IS IT EVER COMING OUT? if you decided to say the hell with it , you sure as fuck better at least release the beta verions thats all im gonna say.

    SOMEONE WITH THE BETA VERSION PLEASE LEAK IT ON PIRATEBAY OK? THANK YOU!

    Kris Lucky7
    Participant

    These games are perfect for VR and because of the scifi I think it would be very enjoyable.

    Imagine the HUD right in your face or even an Elite or Grunt

    Anyways I just hope this could happen and get vorpX support I’m a huge VR fan and Halo fan and I love how vorpX can let you play almost anything!!!

    #2024
    MrGeddings
    Participant

    Ok seriously you are starting to tick me off sir. its insane that you are taking FOREVER to release it because apparently it has to be perfect..even though the first users for it will be with the DEVELOPMENT KIT! therefor we dont CARE if its not perfect!!!! jebus fricking christ. It just really upsets and frustrates me.. your software is badly needed because lets be honest right now that many things to try with the rift i did most of the demos and the only real game i can play on it is minecraft as i dont like the perception driver settings and half life 2 i rather play it without the hud but you gotta freaking enter two console commands everytime you load a map (and thats not easy to do with the rift).

    i got my hopes up thinking oh wow at least world of warcraft is going to work with it using a mod someone did.

    it doesnt..well not for me. maybe because my moniter cant run the super low resolution apparently required by the mod. corse it doesnt help that you have litterarly like 42 steps to get the damned thing working and even after all that it didnt for me….not their fault though but if they had a coder like you who could simply inject a driver instead of relying on TWO other programs .to get it to “render” right.

    (again not really their fault i suppose though i strongly suggest they come up with a better solution in the future at least…)

    but seriously come on release the damn thing already. we NEED it. and hey we are willing to PAY you for it.

    hell. ill say it. it pisses me off!

    you annouced it before the rifts started shipping you told us then “ohh oooh it will be out around when the rifts start shipping”

    YEAH RIGHT!! then hyou go and post a nice little interview and have Road to VR do a nice preview of Vorpx like what 2 months ago? and since then NOTHING?

    really?? i mean come on..how freaking long is it going to take you? my guess is another company like tridef or something is going to come up with a solution before your slow ass does.

    the fact that you freaking dont even BOTHER now to update the blog here AT ALL in what THREE frigging months. shows you really dont give a flying fudge about the people here who want to be a part of it.

    God just what we need for this …some anal developer whos locked in his room in la la land taking FOREVER to release a damn product thats right now for a DEV KIT vr headset.

    GOD! it PISSES me off! how long is it going to be? another 3 months?

    what really rubs my skin is the fact that you gave out (free im sure) nice little beta versions to “special people” who have had it for MONTHS now but for those who are willing to PAY YOU for the damn thing oh no screw that….no we cant get in the beta…not even if we ask. no sorry screw us huh?

    whatever. you should have had a beta program like what they are doing on steam now where you pay for beta at a discount and then get the full version too

    that way people who really want it wont have to wait months and months and months and months and months. and that way you could take all the time you wanted in the beta.

    UGH. whatever. gotta say development for the rift has been pretty slow lately. there was a bunch of cool demos and stuffs the last few months but i dunno the last few weeks its like been silent. i guess there busy working on their projects but we NEED VORPX!

    god id almost be willing to pay 100 bucks right now to get it JUST to have some more content to use with the rift!

    hell thats what im doing right now with Unity. because of the lack of content.. i bought a 90 buck asset pack (was a nice one too) to have something to work with

    and im kinda using it as an alternative to garrys mod because that idiot (ok he has a great mod but..still this pisses me off too) decides to say that it has -vr mode support in the beta and HE DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO TEST IT (YEAH ITS A BETA BUT STILL..AT LEAST if your going to enable a vr mode make sure it doesnt freaking crash the program every single time!)

    so ive been trying to learn to import other models which ironically you most likely could get in garrys mod anyways.. so i can make my little scenes and its may cost me more as i might get some other programs to import more stuff into it.

    but whatever. the rift is so awesome it just begs to have more content for it. and i dont mind paying for it if its cool.

    but yeah…take all the damn sweet time you want. honestly wish someone would have uploaded a beta versoin of it on pirate bay or something so that those wanting to try it out actualy could as honestly a middle finger to you for annoucing this wonderful great awesome driver that now apparently has 80 game supported

    AND TAKING FOREVER TO RELEASE IT AND RELEASING A FREE BETA TO A “SELECT” GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THEN COMPLETELY IGNORING US THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT!

    sorry. people may think im being an ass for posting this.

    but COME ON. maybe if enough people bitch about it you’ll finally decide “ooh gee duh maybe i should go ahead and release the beta for people who want to buy it”.

    sorry this sounds negitive but apparently not like anyone ever posts that muuch here anyways considering that he has all but abandoned this blog.

    RELEASE VORPX ALREADY. HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO BEG FOR YOU TO DO SO:?
    ugh.

    deleate this post if you want i dont care just sick of waiting.

    #1982
    Susu986
    Participant

    The torrent might be a little harsh, but otherwise I have to completely agree with MrGeddings. The fact that Ralf is not releasing any updates, nor there is any communication whatsoever is distasteful. Why would it be so hard to release a daily update of a few words like ‘Today is was optimizing the code for Flight Simulator X’, etc. Hell, we don’t even no if the project is still a go, or not… As someone pointed out Ralf could be even dead by now, it wouldn’t make a difference.
    And even though I don’t have my Rift yet, this complete lack of communication is really pissing me off.
    I also don’t see the point why VorpX is not relased yet. As we could all see, it already works with many games, and besides, no one ever heard of software update??? Vorpx will need to updated nevertheless when the consumer verison comes out, to support 6 DOF tracking. Or at least I guess so. So, if software update will be necessary than what harm would be done by releasing it now, even strictly as a work-in-progress version? Look at Arma 3! The guys released the Alpha version on Steam, and thousands of people bought it already. The game is in Beta stage now, and all Alpha users updated to Beta, as they will be updated for the final version as well, when time comes. Meanwhile they are releasing DAILY updates in a few sentences, so people now what’s going on. And yeah, they already have a ton of money from it, and the gamers are happy, despite the fact that they have paid for and using a yet unfinished product.
    The situation with VorpX is really disappointing, and I don’t know if we can count on it, or it will never be developed. I don’t know, because the only thing I get is complete silence.

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