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  • #217583

    In reply to: Starfield profile?

    cole00
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    OK, for those interested, here’s my experience with VorpX + Starfield so far:

    – Alpha 0.2 profile works, as long as you remove the brackets from the FOV settings.
    – Full VR is amazing! I see no perspective distortions now, everything looks great! Very immersive.
    – Head Tracking works well, but on Reverb G2 it’s very sensitive. I get micro jitters literally from blood pulsing in my veins! Not sure how it can be rectified, but it’s annoying. The effect is that when I’m walking or looking around – everything is fine, but when I’m standing still, I get these micro jitters
    – FPS is good so far, but I only went through the first take-off. I’m on 7950X3D CPU and RTX 4090 GPU, so literally the fastest gaming PC currently available. It feels fluid with motion reprojection enabled and holding at 45FPS. I will try disabling Motion Reprojection and see if it can push 90FPS at all times, but chances are it can’t, so MR should stay enabled. This is with DLSS mod and 2880×2884 resolution. I have all settings on HIGH, the rest as recommended by the profile.
    – Resolution: surprisingly sharp. I’m using OpenXT Toolkit’s CAS sharpening at 100%, but any sharpening should be OK. It’s actually much better than I expected. I might try to increase resolution if FPS holds in big cities etc. but I’d be happy if I can use this resolution. It allows to appreciate the graphics that really looks very nice.
    – 3D. This is my biggest disappointment so far. When it works, it looks quite well. Not as good as real VR, but close. The problem is I have all kinds of random wobbles, pixelated square wobbles on top of the screen, and just random wobbles all around. They disappear if I disable 3D. Funny thing is that sometimes they are there, and then they disappear – same view, but where top 1/4 of the view was wobbling in little squares like crazy it’s suddenly just perfect. I can’t understand what’s causing it, because it’s intermittent, but extremely annoying. Another thing about it is that farther objects looks nice, but my own hands and a weapon is atrocious. It’s so bad that I can’t see the bullet count on a pistol and aiming down sights is very difficult, because all shapes are distorted and randomly squished. Hands look like Minecraft blocks instead of… well… hands. Image is fine, but 3D part is extremely blocky. Same with weapons, they don’t looks smoothly 3D, instead it’s like a series of blocks that don’t match geometry at all. Horrible. I hope it can somehow be improved. I will try disabling Motion Reprojection, and DLSS, to see if it’s related. But I suspect both are necessary for smooth FPS even with my hardware.
    – Controls: Most controls are quite nice and usable. Head tracking works well – it’s exactly 90 turn in game when I turn my head 90. It’s slightly weid to interact with stuff that way, but not too bad. But the 0.2 profile doesn’t have any gestures programmed. They work though, if I add them manually. The, with aiming down sights gesture, aiming with my head is not that bad, as I move my hands with my head anyway, when aiming, just like with a real weapon in the shooting range. Shooting from the hip still feels weird, but not too bad. Down sights is better. Maybe removing the reticle completely from the HUD would be a good idea – more immersive and it would force you to shoot down sights. So controls are as goos as can be expected. However most ship controls are missing, there is no way to redistribute energy to systems, no missile fire etc. The keys that the game notified me about are not on the controllers. Head tracking doesn’t work for looking around cockpit – instead it steers the ship! Very confusing. But it can be overridden by a thumbstick, as long as my head isn’t moving. I’ll have to see if I can figure it out. Possibly I’m going to program my joystick/hotas to emulate a 360 controller for ships, and then map buttons to controller buttons. But looks like I’ll have to stair forward all the time while piloting, or head tracking will steer the ship.

    Overall, it definitely a great deal more immersive than a 2D screen. I’m not going back, for sure. Worth the price. I just hope I can get rid of those 3D wobbles… They ruin half the fun.

    I read most of this and I’m new to vorpx, just got it working with ESO. With ESO I had to disable dlss because it blacked out the right lens on my quest 2. Also iirc I had to set it to use the integrated graphics instead of my dedicated graphics card for ESO but in the quoted text he uses his GPU. Was I doing something wrong with setup for ESO?

    I only tried it on ESO so I could get a feel for it for when I get starfield but due to not using the dedicated graphics card the graphics weren’t that great. Will it be the same situation for star field? Thanks guys for reading 😁

    Laser
    Participant

    Your thread reminded me to try this again, at least for me applying the 4gb patch myself doesn´t work because it breaks the .exe file so I needed to download the pre patched .exe’

    Here is the link, just replace the original on “dragon age ultimate edition\bin_ship” folder
    https://steamcommunity.com/linkfilter/?url=https://www.dropbox.com/s/f20a06alvt0ymeu/LAA%20DA-O%201.05%20.exe.zip?dl=1

    #217540

    In reply to: Starfield Alpha v0.2

    romandesign
    Participant

    StarfieldCustom.ini

    Thanks for sharing this and other details, much appreciated! There are definitely new settings for me here to explore. What’s the best resource about .ini settings etc.? You found more things that I saw listed where I looked.

    Weapon low-poly bug is indeed a separate thing from VorpX. I was going crazy, because any weapon becomes a mangled mess, impossible to aim down site, unreadable ammo display etc. The funny thing is that if I switch to a 3rd person view – it’s fine! Only the 1st person view is bugged. Very rough and unrealistic 3D around hands and weapon area doesn’t help the problem. It’s so fugly. I wish there was a way to even flatten out the hands+weapon. Other 3D has minor issues that are not very obvious and can be ignored. But huge halo and blockiness in the hand area just can’t be ignored. Though maybe with a proper weapon model the 3D will become better in this area? For me this is a big deal as I can’t aim properly and can’t see ammo count, and it’s annoying as hell – and gaming is for having fun, not stressing out.

    It looks like the multiple random 3D glitches I mentioned before were the result of DLSS mod, at least in part. I uninstalled it and tried stock FSR and in a few minutes I tried I saw no random blocky glitches. I think some minor wobbliness can still occur, and I think it may be a WMR Motion Reprojection artifacts, but disabling motion projection I got FPS in 70-80 area, which are not enough for a completely smooth visuals, so enabling it a locking at 45 is the smoothest experience.

    #217529

    In reply to: Starfield profile?

    Ralph
    Participant

    OK, for those interested, here’s my experience with VorpX + Starfield so far:

    – Alpha 0.2 profile works, as long as you remove the brackets from the FOV settings.
    – Full VR is amazing! I see no perspective distortions now, everything looks great! Very immersive.
    – Head Tracking works well, but on Reverb G2 it’s very sensitive. I get micro jitters literally from blood pulsing in my veins! Not sure how it can be rectified, but it’s annoying. The effect is that when I’m walking or looking around – everything is fine, but when I’m standing still, I get these micro jitters
    – FPS is good so far, but I only went through the first take-off. I’m on 7950X3D CPU and RTX 4090 GPU, so literally the fastest gaming PC currently available. It feels fluid with motion reprojection enabled and holding at 45FPS. I will try disabling Motion Reprojection and see if it can push 90FPS at all times, but chances are it can’t, so MR should stay enabled. This is with DLSS mod and 2880×2884 resolution. I have all settings on HIGH, the rest as recommended by the profile.
    – Resolution: surprisingly sharp. I’m using OpenXT Toolkit’s CAS sharpening at 100%, but any sharpening should be OK. It’s actually much better than I expected. I might try to increase resolution if FPS holds in big cities etc. but I’d be happy if I can use this resolution. It allows to appreciate the graphics that really looks very nice.
    – 3D. This is my biggest disappointment so far. When it works, it looks quite well. Not as good as real VR, but close. The problem is I have all kinds of random wobbles, pixelated square wobbles on top of the screen, and just random wobbles all around. They disappear if I disable 3D. Funny thing is that sometimes they are there, and then they disappear – same view, but where top 1/4 of the view was wobbling in little squares like crazy it’s suddenly just perfect. I can’t understand what’s causing it, because it’s intermittent, but extremely annoying. Another thing about it is that farther objects looks nice, but my own hands and a weapon is atrocious. It’s so bad that I can’t see the bullet count on a pistol and aiming down sights is very difficult, because all shapes are distorted and randomly squished. Hands look like Minecraft blocks instead of… well… hands. Image is fine, but 3D part is extremely blocky. Same with weapons, they don’t looks smoothly 3D, instead it’s like a series of blocks that don’t match geometry at all. Horrible. I hope it can somehow be improved. I will try disabling Motion Reprojection, and DLSS, to see if it’s related. But I suspect both are necessary for smooth FPS even with my hardware.
    – Controls: Most controls are quite nice and usable. Head tracking works well – it’s exactly 90 turn in game when I turn my head 90. It’s slightly weid to interact with stuff that way, but not too bad. But the 0.2 profile doesn’t have any gestures programmed. They work though, if I add them manually. The, with aiming down sights gesture, aiming with my head is not that bad, as I move my hands with my head anyway, when aiming, just like with a real weapon in the shooting range. Shooting from the hip still feels weird, but not too bad. Down sights is better. Maybe removing the reticle completely from the HUD would be a good idea – more immersive and it would force you to shoot down sights. So controls are as goos as can be expected. However most ship controls are missing, there is no way to redistribute energy to systems, no missile fire etc. The keys that the game notified me about are not on the controllers. Head tracking doesn’t work for looking around cockpit – instead it steers the ship! Very confusing. But it can be overridden by a thumbstick, as long as my head isn’t moving. I’ll have to see if I can figure it out. Possibly I’m going to program my joystick/hotas to emulate a 360 controller for ships, and then map buttons to controller buttons. But looks like I’ll have to stair forward all the time while piloting, or head tracking will steer the ship.

    Overall, it definitely a great deal more immersive than a 2D screen. I’m not going back, for sure. Worth the price. I just hope I can get rid of those 3D wobbles… They ruin half the fun.

    #217527
    romandesign
    Participant

    OK, for those interested, here’s my experience with VorpX + Starfield so far:

    – Alpha 0.2 profile works, as long as you remove the brackets from the FOV settings.
    – Full VR is amazing! I see no perspective distortions now, everything looks great! Very immersive.
    – Head Tracking works well, but on Reverb G2 it’s very sensitive. I get micro jitters literally from blood pulsing in my veins! Not sure how it can be rectified, but it’s annoying. The effect is that when I’m walking or looking around – everything is fine, but when I’m standing still, I get these micro jitters
    – FPS is good so far, but I only went through the first take-off. I’m on 7950X3D CPU and RTX 4090 GPU, so literally the fastest gaming PC currently available. It feels fluid with motion reprojection enabled and holding at 45FPS. I will try disabling Motion Reprojection and see if it can push 90FPS at all times, but chances are it can’t, so MR should stay enabled. This is with DLSS mod and 2880×2884 resolution. I have all settings on HIGH, the rest as recommended by the profile.
    – Resolution: surprisingly sharp. I’m using OpenXR Toolkit’s CAS sharpening at 100%, but any sharpening should be OK. It’s actually much better than I expected. I might try to increase resolution if FPS holds in big cities etc. but I’d be happy if I can use this resolution. It allows me to appreciate the graphics that really looks very nice.
    – 3D. This is my biggest disappointment so far. When it works, it looks quite well. Not as good as real VR, but close. The problem is I have all kinds of random wobbles, pixelated square wobbles on top of the screen, and just random wobbles all around. They disappear if I disable 3D. The funny thing is that sometimes they are there, and then they disappear – the same view, but where the top 1/4 of the view was wobbling in little squares like crazy it’s suddenly just perfect. I can’t understand what’s causing it, because it’s intermittent but extremely annoying. Another thing about it is that farther objects look nice, but my own hands and a weapon are atrocious. It’s so bad that I can’t see the bullet count on a pistol and aiming down sights is very difficult because all shapes are distorted and randomly squished. Hands look like Minecraft blocks instead of… well… hands. The image is fine, but the 3D part is extremely blocky. Same with weapons, they don’t look smoothly 3D, instead, it’s like a series of blocks that don’t match geometry at all. Horrible. I hope it can somehow be improved. I will try disabling Motion Reprojection, and DLSS, to see if it’s related. But I suspect both are necessary for smooth FPS even with my hardware.
    – Controls: Most controls are quite nice and usable. Head tracking works well – it’s exactly a 90-degree turn in the game when I turn my head 90 degrees. It’s slightly weird to interact with stuff that way, but not too bad. But the v0.2 profile doesn’t have any gestures programmed. They work though, if I add them manually. Then, with aiming down sights gesture, aiming with my head is not that bad, as I move my hands with my head anyway, when aiming, just like with a real weapon in the shooting range. Shooting from the hip still feels weird, but not too bad. Down sights is better. Maybe removing the reticle completely from the HUD would be a good idea – more immersive and realistic – it would force you to shoot down sights. So controls are as good as can be expected. However many ship controls are missing, there is no way to redistribute energy to systems, no missile fire etc. The keys that the game notified me about are not on the controllers. Head tracking doesn’t work for looking around cockpit – instead it steers the ship! Very confusing. But it can be overridden by a thumbstick, as long as my head isn’t moving. I’ll have to see if I can figure it out. Possibly I’m going to program my joystick/hotas to emulate a 360 controller for ships, and then map buttons to controller buttons. But looks like I’ll have to stair forward all the time while piloting, or head tracking will steer the ship.
    – mouse pointer is blocked at the bottom and can’t get to the bottom menu buttons, using both head or mouse.

    Overall, it definitely a great deal more immersive than a 2D screen. I’m not going back, for sure. Worth the price. I just hope I can get rid of those 3D wobbles… They ruin half the fun.

    #217429
    KitZZer
    Participant

    Dealing with same issue currently. I think its hardcoded into the profile. Also immersive is on at all times even in cinema. Do you know if the rdr2 profile had to be imported for you or not? Its been a few weeks but i almost feel like i had to import it and now its stuck there. We might have to wait for Ralf to fix this one because i think its hardcoded into the profile. I just want to play with normal controls in 3rd person

    #217276
    Disco Machine
    Participant

    Thanks I will give that a go later, Sylvan. The weird thing about B2 Remastered so far is that lowering everything both in-game and in Vorpx settings doesn’t seem to affect it at all, and my GPU/CPU aren’t really struggling whatsoever (they are low green in FPSVR). It’s like the game just decided to be 30-60 fps no matter what. Playing it in Z-normal puts it at a good 90fps right away, which is the same fps as I have set in Virtual Desktop. It’s a shame original B2 crashes because that one works perfectly before doing so.

    I’ve had some more luck with Bioshock Infinite though. Seems to be working well enough, apart from some occasional stutters and the text being so small that I can barely make it out. Will have to test it some more though.

    #217251
    Ralf
    Keymaster

    If you are currently using the regular vorpX, try the beta. I recently took another stab at this completely unexplicable Bioshock 2 crash issue, but couldn’t replicate it anymore here. I’m still unsure whether it really is gone, since I didn’t change anything spcifically to address it, so I might just have gotten lucky, but it’s worth a shot. Maybe it’s really gone this time.

    As far as the remaster is concerned, you should easily be able to run it at 90fps. While the Bioshock remasters technically are fairly bad DX9>DX11 ports with an insane amount of unnecessary overhead caused by replicating DX9 behavior with DX11 instead of rewriting the game renderer in ‘true’ DX11 fashion, on your rig that shouldn’t be an issue.

    Not much to recommend here except checking for tools that might interfere by also hooking into games.

    #217232
    Django9898
    Participant

    The VR Mod from Ralf is exactly the same as the official vorpx profile in the vorpx-config-tool, you can use all the motion controls in both the same !

    The Mod is for free and is a gift to the VR community from Ralf to those who not own a vorpx copy. And those who own vorpx use the official vorpx profile, because all profiles of the other games can be managed and installed from the same point in the vorpx-config-tool.

    First, thanks for your answer!

    I figured that the local profile is the same as the standalone mod.

    It’s just strange how different the two versions run for me.
    But no matter, then I just use the Vorpx version.

    But I would like to use the motion controls.

    How do I activate them in the local Vorpx profile?

    In the standalone mod the controllers are displayed, I see them in VR mode, but they are probably not active in the Vorpx profile for me.

    #216900
    CyberJ
    Participant

    It also has DX11 (https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Trepang2#API)

    I have a profile working in G3D I just have not uploaded it because my profile needs an edited exe to increase the FOV without using Vorpx’s FOV slider.
    (There are sometimes weird artifacts when using Vorpx’s FOV slider with UE4 games, typically floors, walls and light sources, with most UE4 games this can be resolved with a HEX edit).

    I can upload my profile if you like, but for best results you would need to modify your game exe with a HEX edit (I know not everybody would want to do that).
    I posted a small guide for a different game (Industria) a while back, ..

    Industria


    (EXACTLY the same process, just different game)

    If you would like me to upload it let me know.

    CJ

    #216796
    virtuayay
    Participant

    i read about motion reprojecting and the ghosting that causes, although i have all motion reprojection settings off in all possible settings of all programs, the image quality problem sounds like it must look pretty similar, just to give you some idea of what the problem looks like.

    should’ve just started by mentioning ghosting i guess but right before posting, the last game i tried had the stutter problem and was particularly bothersome, got my post on a sidetrack i guess…although both problems are bad and totally inexplicable

    the stuttering game i just mentioned is from 2011 and people were playing it through vorpx on like geforce 980s and 1060s so whatever

    #216734

    In reply to: Just Cause 2

    virtuayay
    Participant

    just tried the just cause 2 official profile

    steam tries to start the game, it goes “not responding” for a few seconds, then crashes.

    virtuayay
    Participant

    hi thanks for reading.

    i’m using the beta vorpx version from the forum.

    i searched the forum for this problem and the only page in the first few pages of results that sounded helpful, when i clicked the link, the forum said the post was gone!

    i have a good enough system for anything except new AAA DX12 games to run at 200-500 percent resolution scaling, this isn’t an fps problem.

    i have a 90hz wmr hmd, a 75hz monitor, and geforce 2080ti.

    i get no stutter/judder in native steamvr or openxr games (so long as i keep fps over 90) this has only happened in vorpx. i also dont get the stutterjudder if i use vorpx in pure 2d mode or even Z3D mode. i have motion reprojection turned off in my wmr settings and my openxr for wmr settings, and of course both are also set to 90hz.

    here is when i get stutterjudder in vorpx and how bad:

    worst: G3D, DirectVR, Head tracking prediction On (this setting also causes extreme ghosting of moving objects, i found i get less than half as much stutter and ghosting by turning head tracking prediction off)

    very bad: G3D, DirectVR (ghosting and stuttering is still too bad to be playable)

    bad: G3D, immersive/cinema (might not improve at all, might just look a little better from being less zoomed-in)

    i have tried turning all headtracking options to the least judder modes, that doesn’t help. (judderfree, then safe/off) and also disabling headtracking totally, no difference.

    some games i get just enough less stutter for them to be playable they just could look a little better in motion (official elder scrolls) other games way too much stutter to even enjoy (cloud profile homefront). official profiles run a little better most of the time, they are playable and enjoyable but the problem is still at least slightly there.

    one official G3D profile i tried worked perfectly fine: warband.

    all wmr and openxr drivers are newest, regularly updates. never used another hmd so no conflicting settings anywhere. vsync is turned off everywhere it could possibly be turned off.

    please read this post before replying, i will ignore replies that dont take account of the info i posted. please also try not to just post one-line replies, explain and offer multiple stages of tweaking in case your first suggestion doesnt work. thank you.

    antoine810
    Participant

    I installed the mod the game loaded but not in vr, I’m just wondering will an update be coming soon because of the 1.63 update

    TheBalt
    Participant

    Has anything been changed by the developers in Doom 2016 in the meantime? Asking because Doom 2016 ran excellently about 3 years ago when I last played it with Vorpx.

    As far as I know, due to it being the Vulkan api, none of the profiles on the Vorpx Cloud are actually displaying 3d. Its easy to misconceive this at times due to the immersive nature of having the entire game world in your entire Field of View, but, its not actual rendering the game into 3d.

    You could use the instructions I give above for just about any game, if you wanted to test out a regular Vorpx Profile vs Reshade Side by Side 3d w/ Vorpx Desktop Viewer

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