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In reply to: OpenGL games, like NWN 1
The older the game the better the chance to get an OpenGL title working with stereo 3D. Good base profiles for experiments are Quake, Quake 2, Quake 3, Quake 4, Star Wars Jedi Knight 2 and Amnesia, which all use slightly different stereo approaches or settings. As a last resort try the D2X-XL profile, which still uses the outdated (but most compatible since simplistic) pre 18.1.0 implementation.
In reply to: OpenGL games, like NWN 1
Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition works for me now, I think I’m using a copy of the Quake III profile using nwnmain.exe in admin mode. In geometry 3D. It looks gorgeous zoomed out like a tabletop game but spazzes out and turns into a postage stamp occasionally. Hitting the middle mouse button seems to sort it out. Something with the camera settings and/or head tracking is going wonky but can probably be fixed easily.
Piddled around on a persistent world server anyway since I had voice chat going with the mic on the rift, REALLY enjoyable to muck around half-playing D&D with people online despite the camera and cursor problems.
Ralf, might be worth taking a look at profiles for NWN1:EE and NWN2, that worked for me as well and was goddamn delightful loading up an old module I made and running around rubberbanding in 3D throughout.
If anyone can sort out the camera or find a good graphics setting that fixes these glitches, shout! They are redoing all the assets and character models for NWN:EE along with improvements to the UI and shaders, so things could improve significantly if we can adjust the UI in a few months.
In reply to: Prey(2007) and Quake 4 problem with new vorpx
Theoretically yes, practically no. No Z3D in Q4. What you can try is an ini tweak to disable the framerate cap. I removed that from the settings optimizer due to the timing issues outlined above, but maybe faster moving speed and similar glitches are less distracting for you than the 3D glitch:
1. Navigate to [Quake 4 install]\q4base
2. Open Quake4Config.cfg with a text editor
3. search for ‘com_FixedTic’ without the quotes, change the value to 1If ‘com_FixedTic’ is not in your ini, add it at the end of the file EXACTLY as below
seta com_FixedTic "1"
-1 is also supposed to do something, but didn’t when it was tested.
In reply to: elder scrolls online problem with new vorpx
DX11 TESO has Z3D, that what made clear in the changelog and nothing else was ever said anywhere. You should pester Zenimax to bring back DX9 support, the game had good Geometry 3D before they axed that. 😉
Not sure what your issues may be with Prey 2007 and Quake 4, they work perfectly fine normally. If you installed them under C:\Program Files please make sure that you have write access to the game folders to ensure vorpX can change their config files.
Alternatively try to install them somewhere else where Windows does not block write access per default.
Also make sure to use the Steam versions of Quake 4/Prey 2007. Direct VR will probably not work on old CD versions (or versions you can ‘obtain’ on the internet).
elder scrolls online continues to have problems with the new version of vorpx: the 3d effect is minimal and faded, and it is better to use the “warhammer vermintide” game profile to play online elder scrolls rather than the official profile …
I’m a little disappointed by the new promises of the new vorpx: even quake4 and prey (2007) did not have the promised improvements
In reply to: Prey(2007) and Quake 4 problem with new vorpx
sorry, i wrote the message in italian:
this is the message in english:
prey(2007) and quake 4 (which both have the same graphics engine) continue to have problems with the g3d: the headache comes to play because the view is distorted
prey e quake 4 (che hanno entrambi lo stesso motore grafico) continuano ad avere problemi con la g3d: viene il mal di testa a giocarci perchè la visuale è distorta
In reply to: VorpX – 3D-Vision
vorpX should be able to hook into most OpenGL games, but only for those that use a fairly old OpenGL version (to be precise the original OpenGL fixed function pipeline), there is a chance of 3D. With a few exceptions this mostly means games up to ~2005 (Doom3/Quake4 era).
For fan made mods of older games that might also apply, no harm in trying. The Quake 3 profile is a good base profile for checking unknown OpenGL games.
Hello guys.
I just bought my Oculus Rift, and the bought vorpx. I did Oculus’ tutorial, SteamVR tutorial, played a bit of Lucky’s Tale and The Lab.
On all these tests, VR graph was great. Almost as great as in my monitor. Indeed, in some The Lab environments I really felt I was inside it, given the quality of texture and lighting.
Then I went to vorpx, and graphics are bad. And very very bad. I first tried Outlast (coincidently, it’s for free on Humblebundle!). Used 1920×1440 with no performance issues, but graph was very ugly, much worse than monitor. It seems the game is in 8bit color…
Maybe it was because the game is very dark, so I tried Oblivion. But again, very ugly graphics, as if in 8bit color. I made some tweaks changing its fov, its resolution, no luck.
In both games I applied Optimize Settings.
Also, sometimes menu texts are almost unreadable, in both immersive and EdgePeek modes. Even vorpx ingame menu is very hard to read.
I started to believe it was Rift’s lack of quality, but I went back to Lucky’s Tale and its graph is great.
Considering that monitor graph is 100%, I’d give The Lab a 95%, Lucky’s Tale a 85%, and both Outlast and Oblivion not even 20%.
Really, it’s so bad that games are unplayable. It’s not a matter of resolution, headache, disorientation. I’m feeling no sickness at all and my GTX 1070 is easily running these games. It’s that colors are very very bad, even worse than old Quake colors.
Anything I can try? This is very frustrating because I really wanted to play horror and TES games on VR. I wasn’t expecting to have the dame image quality of my monitor, but I can’t play games this ugly.
Just picked up Quake 3 Arena (again.. as I bought the discs years ago) because
they have an official profile with the latest VorpX.Alas the game won’t come on at all with VorpX enabled. Wondering if the profile was screwed with to work with Doom 2016 etc and now won’t work w/ the actual game its for.
Disappointed to say the least.. I expect if it has an official profile that it should work. I’ve been using VorpX for 2+ years so know all the normal troubleshooting steps… will continue to work with it.
In reply to: Revised list of recommended games
The best games to start with are undoubtedly those with Direct VR support. After applying Direct VR these have perfect 1:1 head tracking and perfect FOV without the need for any further setup. In *some* cases Direct VR even provides basic roomscale, i.e. you can walk around a bit more freely than with the normal vorpX positional tracking.
In no particular order:
Bioshock 1 (original version in DX9 mode)
Bioshock 2 (original version in DX9 mode)
Bioshock Infinite
Borderlands 2
Borderlands Pre-Sequel
Skyrim (original DX9 version is best for VorpX)
Fallout 3
Fallout New Vegas
Fallout 4
Dishonored
Half-Life 2 (incl. Ep. 1+2)
The Stanley Parable
Dear Esther (Source engine version)
Portal
Portal 2
Black Mesa
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Left 4 Dead 2
Mirror’s Edge
Aliens Colonial Marines
Duke Nukem Forever
Quake III
Star Trek Voyager Elite Force
Return to Castle Wolfenstein [2001]My latest personal recommendation would be Half-Life 2 Episode 1, which I just recently played for two hours. Something I don’t do nearly as often as I’d like to these days. Call me heavily biased, I am for sure, but that was more fun than 99% of made for VR games. I actually ended up doing that after buying and trying a bunch of highly praised made for VR titles the same evening.
In case someone never played HL2 Episode 1: right at the start you enter an alien fortress, which not only still looks great after all these years, it’s also a perfect-for-VR mix of shooting sequences and (easy) physics puzzles. Most importantly: all that in a highly intense atmosphere that almost inescapably sucks you into the game. Creating such an intense atmosphere is the hard part of making good single player shooters and it really makes all the difference in VR. Hard to top if you ask me.
Similar things could be said about Bioshock, Black Mesa (Half-Life 1 remake), the Fallout games, Skyrim or – insider tip – Aliens: Colonial Marines, which may just be a mediocre shooter on the monitor, but is actually great with vorpX.
Important side note: whenever possible play standing with Touch controllers or Vive wands!
One last thing: not a Direct VR game, but also extremely intense (and visually great) is Resident Evil 7. I chickened out before the introduction mission was over. Good luck with that one.
In reply to: Doom – no profile possible?
DOOM is 2D only. It uses the OpenGL graphics API and (with a few exceptions) vorpX only can do 3D for fairly old OpenGL games. Roughly up to Quake 3 era games.
3D support for shader based OpenGL versions *may* be looked into further down the road, but that’s a lot of work and considering how few of these games exist may just as well never happen.
Topic: IL2 1946 working!
I made this wonderful program to work and I wanted to share it…
It comes from another forum but the process is the same.
It really changes the way of dogfight…. impressive. With trackIr was cool but with this is AMAZING. I don’t get sick even with loops and crazy stalls… lol. Many people gets sick, not sure…
After playing around a bit I found out it is not perfect (it is not made for this really). When you shot the 3d effect turns off, not sure why. So it looks like a machine gun shaking effect but x2 or x3. I have no idea why is that and I tried everything I could. Sometimes annoying sometimes doesn’t bother much. Maybe the stereo 3d never worked well, not sure, I don’t have a 3d monitor with me to try. I tried the stereo MOD but it didn’t work. The depth is very good. Everything in the cockpit is readable. Planes in distance are not perfect but you can see them and look at other planes in formation with a natural head rotation is very nice. You are there…
Aiming now is very impressive. I can see the planes crossing below my plane and after I dive into them shooting at his tail…. really amazing guys….
About how I made it (it wasn’t easy at all)…. I use mainly two programs…
First I made a custom resolution of 1600×1800 (I have a Nvidia card).
I edited the config.ini and I added this resolution and I turned off WideScreenFoV=0 and change the mouse pointer mouseUse=1 because you need the middle mouse button to zoom in and out the VorpX menus.
For the head tracking I use Opentrack with the tracking of the oculus 0.8 and simulating a trackir (it works 360 degrees in all directions) https://github.com/opentrack/opentrack/releases
Keep in mind the Opentrack doesn’t support oculus runtime 1.3 so I installed this wrapper to simulate the runtime 0.8 needed to run Opentrack. https://github.com/kalavaras/LibOVRWrapper/releases/ .
This are the settings in Opentrack:
Input: Oculus Rift runtime 0.8.0 — HMD
output: freetrack 2.0 EnhancedI turned off all the filters in the “Filter” tab. (there is an empty one on top of the list)
In Options-Output-Translation compensation I turned off “Enable” and enable “Disable Z axis compensation“.
In Options-Camera-Center pose Offset I changed the value of TZ to 5.000 cm.
And for the oculus I use a program called VorpX….
The VorpX doesn’t support IL2 but it supports OpenGL. By default when you play it you don’t see 3d at all you just see 2d (it looks 3d but it is not). The thing I did is take the template for Quake (yes, Quake..lol), copy it and I changed the .exe to look at the il2fb.exe in my IL2 folder and it worked.
At first the cockpit is out of the place but you need to change the 3d separation in the VorpX menu to 0.01 and then the magic turns on. The cockpits looks amazing :)) Remember to save the settings in VorpX menu.
I play with the FOV at 90 (PageDn Key). You can play with the zoom settings (in VorpX menu) till you find confortable with the perspective.
Another annoying thing is VorpX (at least in my machine) doesn’t run if head tracking is off and you need to turn head tracking off in VorpX menu everytime you load first time IL2.
Just I don’t like the tracking in VorpX as it emulates a mouse. Opentrack much better.
So… the way I do it is:
1- Turn on the PC
2- Open Oculus home (be sure the oculus is setup properly if not the opentrack gets confused)
3- Open Opentrack and start
4- Open VorpX
5- Run the game
6- As soon you are in the interface in game turn off the head tracking in Vopx (it should be amazing if they would add a trackir emulator)
7- At first the menus and interface are in your nose. You need to press the middle mouse button and then it zooms in and out.
8- EnjoyIt is a bit of work at the beginning but I think it is worth it if you love IL2 1946 (by the way I am in HSFX 7 but I don’t think it really matters).
Good hunting!
In reply to: Newbie FPS CV1 question
These aren’t all FPS games, but are excellent picks:
The Vanishing of Ethan Carter is AWESOME in VR if you’re into mystery adventures
Elite Dangerous if you like space exploration games
The Elder Scrolls Series – primarily Skyrim.
Fallout 4
The Batman Arkham Series
Metro 2033
Call of Duty Black Ops 1-3, Battlefield 3-4 and even Hardline, Any Splinter Cell or Crysis game
Alien Isolation
Quake I-III
Half Life 2
Portal
The Witcher 1 and 2 if you like extended campaign games that will suck all your time, not sure if Witcher III is manageable at acceptable graphics levels
Bioshock: Infinite
Borderlands
GTA IV and V
and to tickle your fear of heights check out Mirror’s EdgeEssentially if your computer can run it, and it’s built on a major game engine like Unreal, Unity, and quite a few others – it’ll play in VorpX. The less popular it is the more tweaking you’ll have to do though because it won’t have been done already by someone else. Once you get used to the Vorpx in game menu you’ll be able to get games to run. Whether you get a true stereoscopic experience depends on how the game was coded though.
I’m sure that’s clear as mud now.. lol. But hopefully there are a couple of games on there you can check out that are well established as compatible.
In reply to: Amnesia: The Dark Descent
Nope, never received any support. Although, like you said in your other post about Quake 2, it’s probably related to OpenGL. With how many people looking forward to playing Amnesia with the rift and vorpx, I’m surprised it took this long for someone to respond. But no, I never did get it working. :(
