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  • #210160
    Troffmeister68
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    hi , just bought vorpx last night , been testing a few games out on my rift s

    have an issue with just cause 3 , using xbox 360 game pad , some of the buttons are not working properly or not at all ?

    any suggestions
    thanks )

    #210136
    Maichevsky
    Participant

    Sure, at 180fps the issues become less obvious. But that’s purely theoretical for newer, more demanding games. Most people without super highend GPUs are lucky if they can run demanding games at 60 (i.e. 30 per eye with alternate frame 3d). At such a framerate there are a lot of highly uncomfortable situations.

    There’s a reason why no aftermarket 3D injector (let alone any native 3d game) over the course of 25 years ever worked that way. The very first private vorpX builds 10 years ago, when the whole VR gaming community was maybe a few hundred enthusiasts large, used alternate frame rendering because it is so much easier to implement. Didn’t even make it into the first public release… Just mentioning that I plan to do that caused a backlash big enough to send me back to the drawing board.

    Besides: the starting point for vorpX back in the day was my wish to play Descent in VR, an ages old, fast paced shooter. In a game like that with constant fast motion alternate frame 3d is fairly sickening even at twice the display refresh rate. I have that on good authority. ;)

    I am here (in VR) since the kickstarter off DK1, man was I happy VorpX existed in those first years :) I had no idea there was a VR community before that, I would have joined sooner!

    #210098
    dellrifter22
    Participant

    I would call dx12 functionality very limited right now. We only have a handful of official dx12 profiles to try from, which makes it risky to pick up any new games at full price.

    I for example wanted to play AC Valhalla and Far Cry 6, but no existing dx12 profile provided working Z3D, only flat. I have stopped buying new because of this.

    G3D (true 3D) is not even coded for dx12 yet. Only about 3 specific dx12 games have specialized mods for alternate eye rendering to imitate G3D visuals.

    So if you’re lucky, Metro Enhanced with ray tracing and Z3D is possible yes (3D enough to convince your brain that the general scene has depth and space), but if not lucky, you’ll see only a flat image.

    One more thing to note is that you will need to push high resolutions to gain a satisfactory image in a vr headset, so make sure your pc can run the game at least 50+fps @ 4k+ with ray tracing on.

    Not trying to discourage you, just being realistic. You might have luck with some games, and you might not with others.

    #210097
    Ralf
    Keymaster

    Sure, at 180fps the issues become less obvious. But that’s purely theoretical for newer, more demanding games. Most people without super highend GPUs are lucky if they can run demanding games at 60 (i.e. 30 per eye with alternate frame 3d). At such a framerate there are a lot of highly uncomfortable situations.

    There’s a reason why no aftermarket 3D injector (let alone any native 3d game) over the course of 25 years ever worked that way. The very first private vorpX builds 10 years ago, when the whole VR gaming community was maybe a few hundred enthusiasts large, used alternate frame rendering because it is so much easier to implement. Didn’t even make it into the first public release… Just mentioning that I plan to do that caused a backlash big enough to send me back to the drawing board.

    Besides: the starting point for vorpX back in the day was my wish to play Descent in VR, an ages old, fast paced shooter. In a game like that with constant fast motion alternate frame 3d is fairly sickening even at twice the display refresh rate. I have that on good authority. ;)

    #210035
    Burglecutt
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    Hello, first wanted to say thank you Ralf for creating such an incredible mod! Cyberpunk in VR is a dream come true and easily one of the most amazing gaming experiences of my life.

    Unfortunately a couple days ago vorpx and Cyberpunk starting acting up and after several hours of trouble shooting I’m still at a loss. The main problems are Cyberpunk crashes very frequently now on startup (hit play, nothing happens, or game crashes). After restarts and many attempts, if I am able to launch the game then it always starts in 1024×768 resolution, and the HUD has moved far into the corners and can’t be seen anymore. Before this HUD problem I could see the map in the top right corner, now it is barely visible and can only be seen seen in edge peak mode.

    In addition, I also noticed other new problems such as chat options in conversations showing up as blank (you can only read the options if you select over them).

    I have tried uninstalling vorpx, reinstalling, verifying game files for Cyberpunk, etc. Also checked drivers, tried deleting the game cache files. It’s all quite frustrating because two days ago the game was running just wonderfully and as far as I know I haven’t changed anything on my system. My computer is running Core i7 10700KF, RTX 3080, 32gb ram, with valve index.

    Has anyone else run into these problems out of nowhere and been able to fix them? Any help is greatly appreciated as I was just getting back into this game. Thank you for your time.

    #210001
    mr_spongeworthy
    Participant

    I don’t usually like, but that aesthetic in that is just fantastic! I’ve added it to my wishlist and will buy it if it ever goes on sale ($19.95 seems a tad high for what is, apparently, a 2-hour game).

    Is the G3D absolutely correct, or are there issues? 100% correct G3D is currently a big selling point for me. I recently got ELEX because it had a G3D profile, only to discover that it has rendering issues and I’ll have to play the game in Z3D (if I bother).

    #209905
    Wildcard
    Participant

    I mean it works but its far from perfect. I have some general feedback id like to share.

    Lets see umm where to start
    1 Either Detach or make it an Option to Detach Look from Aim.
    2 Make an Option for Left side or Right Side Dominate controllers (where all it does is swap the scheme to mirriored on the other hand.
    3 It would be great to have a single controller be the motion control for Aim, currently its your head thats aiming and not your hand, this makes it not only confusing but weird and funky af!
    4 Left side hand should be grenade throw, not the same hand your trying to fire with
    5 make an option to force view back to center or
    6 make an option to force directional movement based on current head track positoning (this would make it feel more fluid in game. Currently you have three axis of movement. Bi-Lateral, Head, and where ever the right stick is pointing. This causes a Huge Conflict and results in more confusion)
    7 there was no option for pulling up Phone, Zoom Funtion and Hacking Tool(cyberware).
    8 Unbind reload and force reload to a Right Handed Gesture/Motion to a Outward (Counter Clock) Wrist Flick. (This feels more natural and is Extremely intutive for anyone that has ever fired a real Mag Feed weapon (IE: Rifles and Handguns))

    On to the App. Or lack there of. Since I have that freeware to just try it; it might be better with the full 40-50$ software but the App needs to have a simple easy to use 1click GUI to simply Remove the Mod and/or Reinstall the mod. So players may choose to easily go back to straight PC. Shouldn’t be that difficult all the files are in
    steamapps\common\Cyberpunk 2077\bin\x64\plugins
    Just move the vpxCP2077 folder and the vpxCP2077.asi to something like steamapps\common\Cyberpunk 2077\bin\x64\plugins\Backup for Vorpx or where ever the VorpX install is at.

    Next give us the option to install VorpX Where we want to. Again this might be the case with the full install of VorpX and what you all are calling VorpX is just a PluginMod that should probably be Called VorpX CP77 Plugin or something

    Michelangel0
    Participant

    Hi there!!

    I was reading previously that Elden Ring was not “VorpXeable” because of the Anti-Cheat.

    But now, I just find out that the Anti-Cheat can be simply disabled by creating a file called
    «steam_appid.txt» in the game’s folder and editing it so it has the text «1245620» inside.

    I didn’t bought the game because without VorpX is not so worthy for me, so not sure if anyone can check if this works and of course, that if the Anti-Cheat can be disabled if VorpX/Ralf/Users can do it’s magic to pull full G3D or other awesome results :)

    Cheers!

    #209800
    brown66
    Participant

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    I’ve not tried Skyrim LE with Vorpx, do u recommend it? I own Skyrim VR so haven’t tried Skyrim games with Vorpx.

    I’m glad to see that you can now see images in the distance very clearly in Fallout 4! This is one of my flaws with the HTC Vive Pro, especially because of the SDE.

    And to answer to your question, no, you don’t need to play Skyrim with VorpX, if you already have Skyrim VR, unless you want to use some mods that are not available on the Skyrim 64 bits versions, which is my case. And besides, I play Skyrim with VorpX in the sitting position, with keyboard and mouse, because all I want is just to see a true 3D image.

    However, if you have access on your Steam account to the original Skyrim LE, you can try, just to see how it is. There are some differences with several animations (like fighting, riding a horse, working at the forge or mining), but the “core image” is the same, maybe with a better scale in Skyrim VR, especially on outdoors environments.

    I must say that, even with my old HTC Vive Pro, the image quality of Skyrim LE, with the lasted VorpX versions, is just stunning! That’s why I decided not wait any longer and I already order a Pimax 8KX!

    I know that I will need to use the parallel projections with VorpX, to play Skyrim LE, so I’m guessing that, even with my current RTX 3090, I will return to the old days when I fell that my previous graphics card, an GTX 1080Ti, was not enough to show the full image quality potential from the HTC Vive Pro, which I fell that I only achieved after I got the current RTX 3090.

    And so is life! We are always crying for a more powerful graphics card…

    Zenlife
    Participant

    Bit of a weird one:

    The standalone mod (latest version for 1.5 hotfix) works beautifully and smoothly when I install it, except for the fact that Vorpx still needs to adjust resolution / FOV / whatever else it changes (according to the message on screen). So I restart… and the game locks up at the first CDPR logo after the first title, with the Vorpx “beach and sky” backdrop still visible, before it can go fullscreen. I then need to kill it with the Task Manager.

    After that, the only way to make the game playable again is to uninstall the mod. I thought maybe Vorpx was making a change to the configuration that causes the game to immediately lock up, but once the mod is uninstalled, the game starts fine with all the changes (resolution, FOV) applied.

    Playing on RTX 3080, Threadripper 1950X, Oculus Quest 1 via Air Link (but the same happens with or without any headset connected). Clean install, no mods whatsoever, no overlays, disabled real-time protection.

    #209751
    Demuse
    Participant

    I’ve been reading online about a few more people (without vorpX) having severe FPS drops for several seconds related to the inventory and map, specifically. Lots of unconfirmed theories about it being related to GPU, video memory, DLSS, etc, but a recurring comment is the problem gets worse at higher graphics settings and resolutions. My guess is there’s an existing issue with v1.5 that only affects a few people, and normally just causes a 5-second lag spike, but it interacts with the VR mod in a bad way. The fix might have to come from CD Projekt Red? That said, I only ever crash out with the VR mod installed, not once while playing pancake.

    I started clean, again: removed CET and the mod, and checked integrity of the game files in Steam. (Every time I do that after installing-and-removing CET and the mod, one or two small files fail integrity and get re-downloaded?) Then I got the latest CET and installed it manually (instead of using Vortex, thanks for the link above, Ralf!) and then the latest VR mod. Then I played for 2 hours with no crashes. (On my saved game with 100 hours played.) I completed several gigs, drove all around town, checked the map, looked at my inventory a few times. Then back to V’s apartment to change my loadout from my stash, and the crashes are back, every time. It seems worse in the apartment… or maybe that’s just where I usually change my loadout, from my stash?

    So clean install again and tried to start a new game, but it always crashes — I’ve tried four times — right after character creation, before the game starts, 3/4 through the loading progress bar. I can’t start a new game with the VR mod installed. Maybe that’s related? I hope Jools92 and xt4k can confirm.

    Then I removed the VR mod and started new and played through the intro until the first mission (The Rescue) where I could save and also change my inventory. Before exiting I open inventory several times with no problem. Then I re-installed VR, changed no settings at all, opened that saved game, and immediately crashed when exiting inventory. That’s with a new character, no mods except CET, all default settings.

    Since then I’ve just been opening my same old saved game and trying everything to turn the problem on or off. It’s maddeningly inconsistent. I open the save (in V’s apartment) and just open and close the inventory screen, and crash out, 3 times in a row. But when I open that save then walk out into the hallway and back in, then it doesn’t crash no matter what I do. Then for a while I can open that save and I can’t make it crash. Later I open that same save and reliably crash again, every time. A few more times I’ve removed the VR mod and then no matter what I do it never crashes. Reinstall the VR mod and it starts crashing again. I even tried using SteamVR instead of OpenXR but it still crashed.

    I have confirmed that I can crash just by opening and exiting the inventory, map, or crafting screens; I don’t need to actually change my loadout. And it never crashes from the journal or character screens, or just the game menu, even though they all toggle edge-peek — it must be related to the 3D rendering of V or the city map or the weapons and armor. Also, when I change the in-game resolution up to 3840×2160 then I’m almost certain to crash every time. But I have also kept the resolution at the VR mod default or even lowered it to 1280×720 and still crashed there too, but it seems less often at lower res.

    It feels to me like there’s, I dunno, a graphics memory leak or bad address? Related to the 3D rendering of objects in those menus, and maybe only with certain hardware? The game gets into a state where exiting inventory is the trigger, and the VR mod makes it worse, but neither is the root cause, something else happens first. And that state can sometimes be changed by just walking around.

    #209726
    Oliver S.
    Participant

    After the update 1.5 I had another 10GB update today. Now, unfortunately, you see everything again only without 3D and head tracking. Before that everything was running fine. However, I do not have crashes. But I think that Ralf also puts an update online again. Annoying because he has just brought it back to run and then CDR brings directly afterwards again an update out.

    #209377
    dellrifter22
    Participant

    It’s a bit of a stretch, but I have gotten random games to work Z3D with profiles of Unity 5 Base and The Hunter: Call of Wild.

    You could also try dx12 profiles too. Just remember that things like anti aliasing and dlss might cause problems so try with and without different modes.

    mr_spongeworthy
    Participant

    I installed the stand-alone VR Mod for LiS-BTS recently and it’s 99% perfect, with the only issue being the lack of 3D in cutscenes (a fairly small price to pay considering how good the rest of it plays).

    So it’s an instance of a pancake game being forced into VR with zero performance issues, zero shadow issues, zero light issues, zero Z3D artifacts, no need for PP on my Pimax; it’s just straight-up excellent. I’m running it in Wide FOV, 75hz, 1.5 PiTool quality, and it’s flawless. Index controller support is also zero-config perfection.

    Ralf: I *think* the methods used in that mod are based on open-source projects. Is there any chance you might be able to incorporate any of those methods into vorpX in titles where they would work? It’s so great being able to play a game without any of the small problems that so often crop-up. LiS2, for example, I played through vorpX, and it worked great, but I had to keep switching to Z3D flipping between G3D and Z3D because nothing I could do would eliminate shadow-rendering issues that showed up in G3D in some scenes.

    #208837
    mr_spongeworthy
    Participant

    By any chance does this cause some glitches regarding shadows? I’m having some strange issues here and there, like a huge shadow suddenly overlaying things (and causing the fps to drop), and then going away in a second or so. Even half a second maybe.

    If it’s a known artifact of using this I won’t bother trying to troubleshoot it. If it’s something only for me I’ll do a full clean-install of Cyberpunk (except for the save files) and see if that fixes it.

    BTW, I vote for a hotkey that can switch between AFR and Z3D, just like the G3D/Z3D switch.

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